Tyres & Wheels 17" Vs 18" alloy wheels.

Discussion in '4th Generation (2013-2017)' started by Racy Jace, Sunday 16th Oct, 2016.

  1. Racy Jace Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Has anyone got 17" alloys on their CR-V? I'm thinking of downgrading for a smoother ride and wondered if it would make much of a difference.

    I had read of an owner that switched to goodyear tyres on his 18" wheels and that made a difference for him but I just think it's still a bit of a gamble for me as it might not be smooth enough . If I get 17" wheels I'm hoping it will soak up the bumps better.

    Has anyone had experience between the two sizes on their CR-V?
     
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  2. 155695 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    The ride on my winter 17's (Dezent alloys) is more comfortable (noticeably less bumpy and quieter) than the 19's it came with. Mind you I don't think the 19's were as bad as I was expecting.

    Obviously I can't comment on the difference between 18's and 17's but I would expect a definite improvement.

    Keith
     
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  3. Racy Jace Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    My wheels are perfect on all roads but the ones round by where I live and work! :dunce:
    In Wales the car is a real dream to drive through their twisty roads. The small potholes and speed humps really do my head in. Literally! I'll start a wanted thread next week end for some of these.

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  4. PanayiotisPal Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    I tend to agree that 17" rims would give a more relaxing ride due to the 65% wall thickness though not noticeable on everyday tasks. You have to go off road.

    However I would not change rims. I would change tires instead: 225 65R18 and get same relaxing ride as 225 65 R17 (even if the speedometer would have a 2 miles error when speeding at 60 miles/hr). or on the other hand it is very minimal so may not change either tires or rims (rims is a waist of money unless you want to have both winter tires and summer tires on separate rims, then 17" rims would be a good idea).
     
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  5. Racy Jace Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I had thought about putting bigger tyres on but then my spare wheel couldn't be used and I don't fancy using a can of foam.
     
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  6. PanayiotisPal Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    you can not upgrade the spare tire too to a higher diameter/wall thickness?? Would it not fit in the spare tire boot compartment. It is 23mm more in diameter. Just checked it is 23mm only but I have not checked if it will fit.
     
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  7. 155695 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Use smaller wheels with higher profile tyres. This will give a better ride. Just remember to keep the rolling ration within 2.5% of the originals and you won't get any problems with the spare or the speedo.

    Keith
     
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  8. PanayiotisPal Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    :Smile:
    225/60 R18 =727mm
    225/65 R18 =750mm

    (750-727)/727=3.1% increased from original size

    Are you saying that 3.1% rolling ratio of original size is not near the 2.5% thus I cannot use them?? Does it have to do with law?

    245/45 R19 19x7 1/2J 703mm
    Also given allowable by COC

    Thus 727-703/727=3.3% reduced out of originals

    3.3% is still allowable by manufacturer though in this instance it is smaller in diameter.
    225/65 R18 (3.1%) should be allowable due to manufacturer 3.3% allowable limit.

    Anyhow. I know what my next tire size will be, if price is right and if rear spare upgrade size fits. :Smile:
     
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  9. FirstHonda Premium Member Club Supporter

    ^^ A Honda dealer on eBay had a set of those - new - for £250 a few weeks ago. Sadly they appear to have gone...I did a link at the time, but can't find it now.

    Anyway, the point is that they seem to come up for sale quite often as customers upgrade wheels prior to purchase.

    What you could then do is have your original wheels with Winter tyres...'tis the season (almost, possibly!)
     
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    You can use what you like. What I'm saying is that the accepted tolerance (as quoted on many specialist wheel/tyre supplier websites, e.g. Demon tweeks) to maintain the rolling ratio is 2.5%.

    Keith
     
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  11. PanayiotisPal Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    The residual 0.8% is a Honda present/bonus. :Smile:
     
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    I tried my standard 17" wheel in the boot well and found it was too wide to refit the cover, even without the foam blocks. Bizarrely the Book tells you to stow the punctured wheel in there and the retaining bolt is adapted for this wheel.
    However I have still bought another as a full size spare.
     
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  13. Racy Jace Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    My 700w rms amp is on top of my spare wheel so I won't be putting a full size spare in there any time soon. I will be getting some 17" wheels if I can find them at the right price.

    If anyone has these tgen please let me know. :Hey:

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    Mine was £90 including delivery from Gatwick Honda via eBay, new but with a couple of nicks from being chucked about the stores! Still infinitely better than one of my fronts though.

    Pete C.
     
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  15. Bomber209 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Racy Hi, if you look in the 'doorstep' , the space saver is the same wether you have 18" or 17" rims don't know about 19". I've just put Verdestein 235/65/17 Aqua 3 on front and Wintracs on back and compared to stock 18" they feel a bit floaty.
     
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  16. PanayiotisPal Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    235 size tyres are for 7.5" and 8" rims, I believe. Just an opinion.
    Honda supplied 7" rims (limits tyre width to 225mm) in order to avoid tyre upgrades maybe, or maybe to save cost, or maybe to avoid unnecessary increase in fuel consumption.

    Some tyre sites allow this tyre upgrade (7" with 235mm width), most don't.

    Example
    Honda is using 7" rims with 225 tyre width.
    Audi is using 8" rims with 235mm tyre width. (but tyre width can be upgraded)
     
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  17. Racy Jace Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I think I'd rather a floaty feel that glides over pot holes than a sporty hard ride. Don't get me wrong my car is freaking great on smooth roads but in the west midlands there's little pot holes every where and the shock goes right through me.

    Just changing to goodyears may solve my issue but it's a £400 expense if it doesn't work.
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    235/65/17 will give you extra side wall compared to 225 so Ill probable stick to that when I find some wheels. I've a bathroom and an av receiver to buy first and possibly a new composite front door so god knows when I'll get the wheels.:brickwall:
     
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  18. PanayiotisPal Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    I have done the same for the lifting springs. I have waited for more than a year due to other family priorities. In first principles I agree with you, though I would argue that Honda has supplied the wrong rim size. They should go at least with 7.5" (which accepts 235mm max). Then this will create arguments, that I got the wrong car :Smile: rather than Honda supplying a non enthusiast customizable rim. I am left with just one upgrade option which is 225/65 R18 (I have 18" rims with stock tyres 225/60R18) but I have to sort out the problem with the spare tyre first.
     
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  19. Bomber209 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi, Forgot to say I've put 17" BB Alloys on, just for the winter then I'll go back to 18" Honda wheels.
     
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  20. Racy Jace Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    What's the ride like in comparison and what tyres are you using.?
     
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