Engine & Gearbox 2.2 i-ctdi clutch slip and now engine is dead too

Discussion in '7th Generation (2003-2008) [Acura TSX]' started by accord04_2015, Sunday 15th Mar, 2015.

  1. accord04_2015 New Member Getting Started

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    Hi all I have just brought an 04 diesel with 133000 miles on it, small journeys and back and forward to work (12-13 miles one way) nothing happens no matter how fast and hard I drive the car, but yesterday I did a good 70-75 miles in it ABS noticed that towards the end of the journey in 4th/5th as soon as the turbo kicked in the clutch would slip and the car would shudder, as long as I was only just pressing the accelerator it was ok, I have 99% of the service history in honda service books and I can see no evidence of a clutch being changed, I know there are a lot of posts on here already regarding this issue just wanted some one to one advice on where I should go from here as the prices I'm seeing are very daunting considering I only paid 1600 for the car???

    If anyone could help I'd be very grateful?
     
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  2. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    A new clutch and possibly DMF are expensive, but they do tend to last a long time. Worth asking your local Honda Dealer for an opinion.

    Be careful about getting a clutch changed by anyone other than an official dealer. You need a special tool to fit it correctly, or you will have problems.
     
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  3. accord04_2015 New Member Getting Started

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    Hi guys just got my new car on the weekend and noticed it had a bit of clutch slip, but this morning I was driving to work doing about 60 in 5th when all of a sudden the car shuddered the dash boosts lit up like a Christmas tree in a town centre, the car went into limp mode and all the lights went off except the engine management and what I believe is the glow plug symbol was flashing,

    I turned the car off left it 5 mins then when I started it then it came back on the glow plug light was off the engine management light stayed on, and the car is running really rough sounds like crap,

    Anyone got any ideas should I even try to get the car sorted out just my money back?
     
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  4. Zebster Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    I strongly suggest that either the slipping clutch OR the engine cutting out would alone be good reasons to return this recently-purchased car.

    The slipping clutch could easily cost you over £500 to have replaced (possibly more, if the DMF also needs replacement). The engine cutting out accompanied by the glowplug warning COULD be as simple as the fuel filter needs replacing, but could be other more expensive problems (the stored diagnostic trouble code needs to be read to be clearer about the problem area).
     
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  5. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    As Seb says, this could turn pretty expensive very quickly. Your best bet is to return the car (assuming you haven't bought it privately).

    The engine problem will need proper diagnoses by someone who knows the Honda ICTDI engines well. If you do need a new fuel filter ensure you only buy a genuine Honda one, these engines are very picky about the filters, a new aftermarket one will probably still give you problems which may confuse the diagnoses and lead the mechanix down the wrong (expensive) path.
     
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  6. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    If there's any Honda specialists in you area they would also be able to do the clutch change for you.
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    @accord04_2015 I've merged your two threads into one as they were both asking about the clutch issues.
     
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  7. accord04_2015 New Member Getting Started

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    I'm taking it back to the guy today, when I brought it he gave me a month engine and gearbox warranty he said he will either get a problem fixed or give me the money back?

    Will post back later any info
     
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  8. Nighthawk Guest

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    Let us know how it goes. Good luck
     
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  9. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    I would get your money back if I were you.

    There must be better examples out there than the one you have found.
     
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  10. accord04_2015 New Member Getting Started

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    Well if anyone knows of one I have 1600 to spend let me know
     
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  11. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    You may be better with a 2.0 petrol at that age. Yes, the MPG will be worse, but you can avoid the pitfalls of an old/poorly maintained diesel. :Unknown:
     
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  12. Zebster Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    £1,600!?!? I reckon that's about double what a 2004, high-miler Accord is really worth. I've seen reasonable-looking ones go for as little as £520 on eBay! But, if you buy from a used car dealer, then I guess car prices will be massively inflated.

    I hate used car dealers...
     
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  13. tonygw Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

    I'll second that!
     
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  14. accord04_2015 New Member Getting Started

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    Will have to do some looking around then, I've just taken it back the guy who says he going to get it looked at tomorrow, I now face a nice little 26 mile walk home
     
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  15. richb87 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hope you get it sorted mate, I personally wouldn't change a clutch and not the flywheel. If your doing one might aswel do both.
    But in your situation your better off going back to the seller
     
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  16. accord04_2015 New Member Getting Started

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    Hi guys I've taken the car back to the seller who has had it fixed, all he has done is the clutch they said they caught the clutch early enough it was only just showing signs of ware but changed it anyway BUT they didn't change the flywheel he said they inspected it and it was fine and didn't need changing, the engine problem was apparently a blocked EGR they said that's what the fault code was they cleared the fault took the EGR of the cr cleaned it out and put it back on,

    How does all this sound to you guys the clutch thing don't sit right with me but whaler do you think?
     
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  17. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    As @richb87 says, it's worth changing the DMF at the same time, but since it's done now, see how it goes. If it was okay, then you should be fine.
    Restricted EGR's are quite likely, and will cause problems, so a good clean can only help. The proof will be how she runs now, so let us know.
     
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  18. accord04_2015 New Member Getting Started

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    I would personally have changed it as well but he said as he was doing under warranty the DMF wasn't faulty so he wasn't going to change it
     
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  19. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    At least it's been sorted for you, which is something some dealers wouldn't even entertain.
     
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  20. Zebster Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    I understand that Honda don't routinely replace the DMF, so I wouldn't worry too much.
     
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