Introductions 2.4 vtec New to Honda

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by redefined_cycles, Tuesday 6th Aug, 2013.

  1. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi all. Just got my new VTEC tourer 2003 model. Its in garage at the mo having an LPG conversion (speedyG I think you'd be happy with his work as I checked what he told me against your advice on the LPG threads and it seems to match ). Previously my last Primera GT... I don't feel I did it justice by taking it to a dedicated GT/Primera pro. I can't afford main dealer prices but do always keep up with maintenance/FSH.

    So, I am here now to request the help of you guys to try find someone local who can provide stamps for my service book as well as do me some excellent informed work on my new car...

    If someone can get back to me in time I can tell the LPG guy not to get my minor service done from his contact/local garage...

    Thanks all
     
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  2. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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  3. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Hi R_C, welcome to AOC.

    Take some pics of the install afterwards and post please. Also out of curiousity how much is the install costing you and which system is it ?

    For your servicing I take it your after a Honda Independant garage ? Look up Phoenix Close Honda Specialists, not sure exactly how close they are to you.

    Failing that next best thing to a Honda specialist would a Good Garage Scheme garage. You can look up a nearest one to on the Good Garage scheme website.
     
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  4. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Just been at the Autogas/Diagnostics centre where my LPG conversion is being done for most of the day. Picked his brains, got his credentials, found out more about my system and managed to secure some discount AOC members. Speedy, unfortunately the install has been help up as he had ran out some small connector (that connects some pipe from gastank to somewhere else!!- can't remember what he told me now), so didn't take any pictures yet (with the cars pants down).

    Anyhow, I assume CJ would want me to post this info on the LPG thread so here goes...
     
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  5. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    New LPG M Fast I conversion

    Hi. Just thought I'd put up some pics of the conversion....

    Probably gonna do 1 then if that works then 2, 3 at a time as I preciiusly tried to put up some pics but the server couldn't process the info

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  6. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Right. Looks like it worked so here goes for the rest. Hope you can see them. The boot dows look like a bit of a bodge but I wanted to try and keep the riser tray but at the same time wanted the tank to fit away in the wheelwell... This way hopefully I can still utilise the boot as well as have a decent size gas tank (65 litres which I managed to fill up to a little over 55 litres)...

    Me is a very happy bunny and can't wait to see the returns.

    Ps. Tried to put 6 pics but didnt work so 1 lr 2 at a time....:Messed:

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  7. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    and another 1

    I think this is pic of vaporizers and some othrr random thingy that has micromises name on it

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  8. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Gas filter on the left, Tomasetto AT-09 reducer/vapourizer on the right (fitted an at awkward angle).

    Keeps the pics rolling mate, injectors, tank mounting, filler mounting etc

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    Oops you have already posted the other pics .. my bad :Smile:

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    Just filler cap picture left please :Smile:

    I'll post my thoughts on the install later.
     
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  9. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Here goes 1 by 1

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    Still coming through

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    Only a few left

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    Filler cap into plastic bumper just as I wanted to prevent long term corrosion

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  14. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi Speedy. Yes I insisted on that and he said he will process it and get it done

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    Ps. Just read that thread. Unfortunately I didnt have access to laptop/compuyer and attached via my phone gallery on s3...
     
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  15. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Cool ... and how critical would you like me to be in my analysis of the install ? :Smile:
     
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  16. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Lol... go for it. Constructive criticism is the way forward for AOC. Say some nice things about it too
     
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  17. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Re: and another 1

    Lets start with the mounting of the ECU, for a professional install charging top dollar you don't expect anything to be tie clipped on.
    Tie clipping things will always leave them loose and susceptible to movement. In this case the ECU with it's heavy wiring loom could end up rubbing on the main water pipe, over time this could result in a hole in the pipe, not good !

    Poor workmanship really, I'd only expect to see that on a low budget, one day install.



    The filler .. I going to take a punt that there is no custom bracketing made behind this filler, attaching it to the body of the car. The COP11 guide lines state that the filler must be fixed in such a way that the should the filler pipe be accidentally left attached and the vehicle driven off, the fixture on the car will be strong enough to allow the safety couple on the filling pipe to detach. This is very key safety point that installers overlook when they fit fillers to bumpers. So the result is they install the filler in a unsafe manner that does not comply with the regulations. But as they themselves pass their own work, this does not get picked up.

    I could be wrong and the installers may have added custom bracketing between the filler and the body of the car but I highly doubt it.

    If they haven't it's an epic fail which has safety implications. Have look under the bumper and see what you can see. Better still post a picture.

    Ahhh Hana injectors, I like them, good quality injectors.

    However, I don't like the way they have mounted the injectors on top of the inlet cover, I've always mounted them under the cover, this raises the cover a little bit but it keeps them protected and hidden.

    Aside from the aesthetic aspect, being on top of the cover means longer vapour pipes, shorter pipes are better. A bigger issue than this though is the snug tight holes cut for the pipes going down, again pipes rubbing and wear out could be a problem, I would never cut any engine cover. Again this could have been avoided by placing injectors under the cover.

    Reducer ... Tomasseto AT-09 "Arctic" hmmm whats this doing on a top priced install ? Costs about £60 it's a budget reducer, it's rated output is just about enough for an 2.4 litre Accord. If it's not the "Artic" version then it's under rated for the car, which I doubt they would have done.

    Really disappointed to see this one being used on what is suppose to be a top end system.

    So, RC ... you asked for my honest opinion and I've given it. From the pics that you've posted I've given you my honest thoughts, I do have a very critical eye when it comes to these things though.
    It's not the worst install I've seen and it's not the best either though.

    There's been some corners cut which is disappointing for the price you paid but don't be disheartened though, judging by the feedback you have got from customers of this company if you do have any issues, the company will fix them for you. And I'm sure the system runs well overall.
     
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  18. redefined_cycles Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi Speedy. First, soz for not updating sooner but I work shifts in a very high stress long hours job in which the libcons have a large say (take a guess??).
    Anyhow, thanks so much for the constructive info above and will update further after discussing with Eco Logic when I have a moment.
    Regarding the system and service so far it has been top notch... EcoLogic have remained highly accessable and answered all questions to a high level of educating me/knowledge which coincided with what the other industry experts (including you Speedy) have said. Also, about the strength of the fuel cap I have been unable to add pics as I am again, mobile only, and wouldn't want CJ getting annoyed at me for not following the rules (cj, btw I think I know why your rd tax is higher than other 2.4s)...

    So, the fuel cap does seem to have a massive bracket behind it where the pipe enters and regarding the Tomasetta reducer, I discussed it with Eco and it has been carefully selected due to good longevity he has seen over the past 5 years of trading. It is also rated to 240 BHP which is ample for the car...

    Right, the rest of the brief info (brief due to lack of time right now) I will add to the lpg thread. Speedy, thanks again for all your info (past and present).
     
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    Good to hear they have put a bracket behind the filler. You can now rest easy knowing that they have done a good job and are a company that looks after their customers.

    Enjoy the new lower running cost of your car RC :Thumbup:
     
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  20. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Just read this thread carefully and I really don't know much about LPG installs and TBH it not for me. If I wanted lower cost of ownership I would have got a Hybrid or even a weasel engine . However Speedy thanks for your input it just shows what perception of a top dollar install and what components and regulations have been followed.

    Hope others can learn from it before jumping in with their hard earned cash, Speedy should we have a wiki section for LPG installs?