Electrical & Lights 98 CR-V died

Discussion in '1st Generation (1995-2001)' started by Samfin, Friday 3rd Jun, 2016.

  1. Samfin Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi everyone, I have a problem with my 98 2L auto CR-V, (I'm a girl and don't know that much about cars so please bear with me).
    I would be driving my car and the engine light would display and the car would completely cut out. I would leave it to cool down (it wasn't overheating) and it would start again (with no engine light). I got a bit paranoid about getting stuck somewhere so borrowed a car and left it on my drive for a week until payday. At which point the engine light is now permanently on and it won't start at all. So far I've had replaced the coil, distributor cap, rotor, plugs leads and amplifier. There is no spark and doesn't seem to be any fuel getting through (there is petrol in it). Tried plugging several obd readers in and it won't connect (obviously to old).
    Can anyone shine a light on what could be wrong?? I don't really want to replace much more as going to end up spending more than the cars worth, any advice much appreciated
     
  2. legend-ary Moderator Staff Team

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    sorry to hear about your CR-V. No spark condition is interesting.. a couple of questions even though they might be completely irrelevant

    a. do you have another key that you can try?
    b. when was the battery last replaced?
    c. I think back in 98 there was just an OBD 1 port so requires jumping a connector and reading the blinks. just have to find the connector for this. .something like this:


    I am sure some of our more experienced members will be able to help you in the right direction.
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    and this is a list of what the codes mean:

    OBD 1 CEL codes
    0 - Engine Control Modual (ECM)
    1 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) or Oxygen Sensor (O2S)
    3 - Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP Sensor)
    5
    4 - Crankshaft Position (CKP Sensor)
    6 - Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT Sensor)
    7 - Throttle Position (TP Sensor)
    8 - Top Dead Center Position (TDC Sensor)
    9 - No. 1 Cylinder Position (CYP Sensor)
    10 - Intake Air Temperature (IAT Sensor)
    12 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System
    13 - Barometric Pressure (BARO Sensor)
    14 - Idle Air Control (IAC Valve)
    15 - Ignition Output Signal
    16 - Fuel Injector
    17 - Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS)
    19 - Lock-Up Control Solenoid Valve A/B (A/T)
    20 - Electrical Load Detector (ELD)
    21 - VTEC Solenoid Valve
    22 - VTEC Pressure Switch
    41 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater
    43 - Fuel Supply System
    48 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) [D15Z1(except California model)]
     
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  3. Samfin Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi, thanks for replying.
    I do have another key but it won't turn in the ignition (never has), it'll only open the doors.
    The battery was replaced about 6 months ago.
    And we did try the reading the blinks thing by watching a few you tube videos and it didn't work :-(
     
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  5. Samfin Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi, would a dead fuel pump (or inertia sensor) cause no spark??
     
  6. stuscrv Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Could it be the same as mine ? Well known ignition switch failure ? Would be driving along and suddenly go dead, like someone turned off the key. Easy fix if that's the prob.
     
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    Good suggestion @stuscrv

    Also could be main engine relay cutting out when warm.
     
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  8. Samfin Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    What's the symptoms of ignition switch failure? as the ignition seems to work, it just won't fire
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    I'm sure he said checked all the relays (I could be wrong but sure that's what he said)
     
  9. stuscrv Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Its an old and well known early CR-V fault. Apparently the wrong grade of grease was used from new, this eventually goes hard and shorts out the ignition switch rendering it useless. Millions around the world were recalled but mine escaped ( 97 model ) so could have yours. The symptoms are like an alarm cutting in shutting off the spark completely even on the motorway ! The yanks took Honda to the cleaners, cost them millions. Ring your local dealer, while they won't admit anything they know all about it so the actual fix is quite cheap. If I remember the new switch is about £23 and labour about the same ( guilty eh ? )
     
  10. Samfin Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    So I presume I can buy one of those online (Seeing as I can't get it to a honda dealer) and get my friend to fit it???
     
  11. stuscrv Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Hi @legend-ary can't seem to remove your quote but keys on our old crates are just that - keys no electrics in them lol.

    OBD 1 CEL codes
    0 - Engine Control Modual (ECM)
    1 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) or Oxygen Sensor (O2S)
    3 - Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP Sensor
    5
    4 - Crankshaft Position (CKP Sensor)
    6 - Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT Sensor)
    7 - Throttle Position (TP Sensor)
    8 - Top Dead Center Position (TDC Sensor)
    9 - No. 1 Cylinder Position (CYP Sensor)
    10 - Intake Air Temperature (IAT Sensor)
    12 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System
    13 - Barometric Pressure (BARO Sensor)
    14 - Idle Air Control (IAC Valve)
    15 - Ignition Output Signal
    16 - Fuel Injector
    17 - Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS)
    19 - Lock-Up Control Solenoid Valve A/B (A/T)
    20 - Electrical Load Detector (ELD)
    21 - VTEC Solenoid Valve
    22 - VTEC Pressure Switch
    41 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater
    43 - Fuel Supply System
    48 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) [D15Z1(except California model)][/QUOTE]
     
  12. legend-ary Moderator Staff Team

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    [/QUOTE]

    I see. Yeah didn't realise that.
    So there is no Immobilizer...?
     
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  13. stuscrv Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    No not on mine, but the young lady has an auto, that would have an inhibitor switch ?
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    Back on ! Have you tryed to start in neutral as well as park, kind of juggling it as you turn key ?
     
  14. Samfin Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    "Young lady", I like this forum lol.
    I'll go try and start it in neutral, back in 5 mins,
     
  15. stuscrv Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Wiggle it - just a little bit - shifter that is lol
     
  16. Samfin Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Nope, didn't work :-(
     
  17. stuscrv Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Well sorry to say that's me out of ideas, there's loads of knowledgeable peeps on here but they are getting on a bit so are probably tucked up in bed watching back to the future ( good move new De lorean ) you should invest in some kind of breakdown service, there's suggestions on here, mines £42 a year so well worth it.
    Hope you get it sorted soon.
     
  18. Samfin Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Funnily enough my breakdown cover has lapsed (had it for years, never used it, but as soon as you don't renew, you need it, typical)