General Car immobiliser easy to crack, say researchers

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  1. jimjams Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Anti-theft devices found on millions of cars are vulnerable to a "trivial" attack, say security researchers.
    They found the encryption system used in many car immobilisers can be cracked, potentially letting a thief steal the car.
    Vehicles made by 26 separate car firms including Volkswagen, Porsche and Honda use the "weak" security system.
    The researchers first released their findings two years ago but legal action prevented publication.

    Car immobiliser easy to crack, say researchers - BBC News

    Dismantling Megamos Crypto: Wirelessly Lockpicking a Vehicle Immobilizer
     
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  2. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    26 car firms !! That's like the majority of the car makers out there !

    I know that premium brands have had a lot of problems with cars being stolen, so it's a pretty wide spread problem indeed.
     
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  5. FirstHonda Premium Member Club Supporter

    ^^Missed that...can the threads be merged please?

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  6. jimjams Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    I'm not that bothered tbh, let's just run with this one
     
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    The problem with electronics is that no matter how clever they make the security systems, there is always someone who will be able to break it.

    When I lived in africa, I installed a manual cut off switch which I HID within the cloth of the drivers seat using a pressure sensitive touch switch. This cut into the earth cable of the ECU. Whenever I got out of the car, I would press the switch, which was completely hidden within the foam of the drivers seat by pushing on the fabric, right between where your legs would be, this would then cut the earth cable out of the circuit so the car would never ever start in a million years as the ECU would remain disconnected.

    Theives know how to bypass manufacturers systems. Throw your own simple device into the mix, and it will throw them completely and go elsewhere.
     
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  9. FirstHonda Premium Member Club Supporter

    Thanks @Nels :GoodJob:

    You'd have thought by now I'd have worked out how to search...:Epic Fail:
     
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  10. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    My pleasure Ed.
    As for Searching, which words you enter determines how successful you are, so that can often mislead you.
     
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    Crikey, I thought it was just 'keyless entry' that was affected but clearly it goes a bit deeper than that...
     
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    Should have bought a BMW lol
     
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    Lol damn!
     
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  17. FirstHonda Premium Member Club Supporter

    You've got to love the fact that a KIA Shuma or a Ssangyong Korando has the same security flaw as a Maserati Quattroporte or a Ferrari California!
     
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  18. jimjams Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    ^ hahahaha well spotted
     
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  19. Harvey Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    So does that mean that those effected by the security flaw will be fixed free of charge?
     
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  20. Chunkylover53 Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I'm sure it would be very costly to rectify, chances are affected owners who are worried should invest in an aftermarket alarm.
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    I found this, the affected transponder is the Megamos type:
    HONDA ● TRANSPONDER CHIP CATALOG ● TRANSPONDERS PRODOTTO

    I believe it corresponds to USDM vehicles but there is a clear pattern showing newer Honda's (08+) NOT using the affected Megamos transponder. Better show than VAG for sure...
     
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