Service & Maintenance Car Wants To Be Sluggish:

Discussion in '5th Generation (1994-1997) [Rover 600, Isuzu Aska]' started by In_Correct, Saturday 18th Oct, 2014.

  1. In_Correct New Member Getting Started

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    I have a 1994 VTEC 2.2 L 4 Cylinder EX Wagon Automatic.

    I don't know much about the car history but it could have been cared for better. The original tires were 7 years old. Also, the original battery was a marine battery with four connection posts. (two positive, and two negative) Because of those two shocking discoveries I assume it has not even been tuned for 7 years. I am about to do a tune up. But this means that the symptoms could be from many problems.

    When I take my foot off accelerator, or turn off the cruise control, the car quickly slows to a stop by itself without even needing to apply the brake pedal. Out of curiosity, shift into neutral (instead of reverse) on a steep hill or slope does not make it go backwards. I have researched and this seems to be called Anchoring, usually because of sticky brakes. I don't think it is sticky brakes because this issue only occurs sometimes.

    Later, car engine is being sluggish occasionally. Sometimes, when accelerating, the engine sounds like it has a sore throat. It just does not want to accelerate properly. Cruise control works, temperature is below half, no D4 light, no Check Engine light.

    Is my car going to explode? Why does to the symptoms only occur sometimes? Are the two symptoms connected to each other? Do Honda Accords have an Anchoring behaviour whenever there is engine trouble?
     
  2. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Firstly @In_Correct welcome to Honda Karma :Hey:

    Your car seems to have had a bit of rough life, by the sounds of it whoever owned her previously probably couldn't afford to maintain her that well. There shouldn't be any "anchoring" behaviour. That's quite odd behaviour.

    If this were my car I'd start with service items, oil change, air filter, spark plugs, check condition of ignitions leads, coolant fluid. If I recall correctly these have a distributor, so remove distributor cap check it's condition, clean contact points and rotor. I'd also remove the throttle body and give it a good clean.

    If the tyres haven't been changed then probably safe to assume that the braking system hasn't been maintained either. I would carry out a full strip and service of all the brake calipers.

    Are you able to do any of this work yourself ? In fact why don't you pop over to our "Introduce yourself" section and say a few words about yourself ?
     
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  3. Nighthawk Guest

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    Hello @In_Correct, welcome to Honda Karma :welcome:

    It does sound like she has had a rough time however Honda's are tough little cars and normally bounce back quick nicely when some TLC is lavished upon them. As Speedy has suggested, change the service parts, and strip and clean as much as you can. If you are unsure about anything, please feel free to just ask plenty of questions and we will happily help out as much as you need.
     
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  5. In_Correct New Member Getting Started

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    Perhaps this new information is useful.

    JUST DOWN THE STREET:

    When driving her just down the street I will shift into reverse, or drive. (D4) I have not tried the lower gears. After shifting I hear the tiny click sound when the gears engage. Usually the car moves by herself, but when she acts up she will not move unless pressing on accelerator. If I wait before accelerating I hear the quiet sound of metal groaning. I have heard this sound before. It sounds similar to whenever I partially take my foot off the brake petal but then decide to put foot on brake again. (Example: when stopped at traffic light.)

    This is even more confusing but the car is much more likely to move when shift into a gear (and it moves quickly also.) approximately 10 seconds after I start car. If I let it warm up, and it idles (the engine is quieter) The car is much more likely to act up. But if I just shift it about ten seconds after starting it, it does not seem to act up.

    HIGHWAY:

    I use the cruise control when driving on highway. I noticed that whenever it acts up while driving it on highway with the cruise control the RPM stays at "3" for several minutes before shifting again. If I turn off cruise control car will slow itself rapidly. (feet are not on brake) These behaviors seems to only happens once while driving her someplace. Otherwise it is fine. But when it acts up there is no blinking D4 light and there is no Check Engine Light. (the light does not come on and the light does not blink.)

    AFTER TURNING IT OFF:

    during the "down the street" test, whenever it acted up, after turning off the car I noticed that metallic brake sound described in the "down the street" paragraphs. It is shifted into park. The emergency brake is not activated. My foot is not on the brake petal. And the car is not parked on a slope. I was outside listening for noises so the car is obviously not moving. So why the metallic brake sound?

    Will it explode?
     
  6. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Sounds like to me that you may have a sticking brake caliper. I would get your brakes checked out.
     
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  7. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    yup I concur could you strip the rear end and post pictures?
     
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  8. In_Correct New Member Getting Started

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    I had taken Car to mechanic and finally they had found the issue. I felt it was most likely a brake issue. But the mechanics did not believe me :Whistle: because the rims were not hot. I was able to get them to test drive themselves whenever I found it acting up, this time (for the first time) acting up on my to garage, minutes before arriving.
    They confirmed the brake problem. They said all the brakes on all the wheels were applied. They then replaced the Brake Booster and car has not acted up since. If I shift into neutral now it rolls away. :Grin: Before, when I shift into neutral, it almost never rolled away. Instead, it held in place with that metal brake sound, even though I did not even use the brake pedal at all. But now it rolls away.
    I also had the transmission fluid change as well as oil change and oil filter. :Smile: Also, there are several other new parts, such as new radiator fan. Much more work must be done. But now the transmission is not longer acting up any more either. :Grin:
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    Yes, Problem has been solved! :Grin:
     
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  9. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Great news ! Thanks for reporting back.
     
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