ICE & HFT Fitting a Reversing Camera

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  1. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    The fact that my head unit setup is not 100% complete and the reversing camera has not been setup yet is really bugging me, so I'm going to have a go at it again. The 2 cameras I currently have look out of place, no matter where I put them, so I went ahead and got myself a number plate surround with built in reversing camera. From what I have seen, you would not be able to really notice the camera there if just glancing, and it's also pretty much dead center of the tailgate.

    I'm going to try and do as much of it as I can, and the way I see it, the following would be the different steps (and concerns / questions I have) involved -
    1. Drill a whole in the tailgate *cringe* and feed the camera cables through, and mount the plate surround and number plate (should be able to do myself)
      1. I want to keep the hole as small as possible, so I assume it would be ok for me to cut the RCA video cable, feel just the cable through and then splice it together again ?
      2. What is the best way to seal the hole I feed the cables through (Firstly to stop water ingress, and also to stop rust.) ?
    2. Run cables through the trim of the tailgate and in through the grommet / rubber seal at top right of tailgate (should be able to do myself)
    3. Run video cable all the way through to the front of the car (should be able to do myself)
    4. Run camera power cable down to one of the reverse lights (should be able to do myself)
    5. Connect video cable to head unit, and also connect cable from head unit to reverse light power (probably better for someone else to do at this stage)
    6. Connect camera power cable to reverse light and ground (definitely better for someone else to do)
    I'm hoping to do most of this myself, most likely leaving any of the electrical connections to someone more capable.

    I was wondering if anyone else here has fitted an aftermarket reversing camera (I did a quick search and didn't find any guides to this effect), and if so, if they have any advice / suggestions etc. ?

    I'll obviously look at keeping a photographic record of my progress, which may end up as a guide, so any feedback / input would be greatly appreciated.
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    This is the item I ordered
     
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  2. Nighthawk Guest

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    Looking forward to it mate.

    Your Civic is going to be the most kitted out Civic in your area soon.
     
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  3. MickyB Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    My daughter had one fitted to her RSMegane its in her number plate and can't be seen.her plate is in the bumper and not the tailgate so I think hers was drilled into the underside of the body and the cables fitted through and then grommets fitted.
    She has an updated after market ICE system and the camera is really good. It has markers on the screen to aid when reversing,red for danger green for go. Pretty cool even for a Renault :Grin:. Good luck with it.
     
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  4. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    I've got all the gear here to do the same thing to my Accord, just haven't found the time yet. You can get a wireless kit for about £20-30 to send the video signal to the headunit without the need to trail cables, personally I always prefer hard-wiring.
     
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  5. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    I got the wireless kit too. Plus 2 cameras, plus one clip on rearview mirror with built in LCD, plus a numberplate surround mounted camera on the way :Grin: (couldn't quite decide which camera to go with, and I got the mirror clip on thingy when I was still of two minds about the double din head unit).

    I heard wireless is unreliable, plus it means splicing more power cables, so I'm gonna go for the 5 metre RCA cable.
     
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  6. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    And of course, as is often the case with distance purchasing.... the mounting holes on the number plate surround don't match up on my car, AND the camera obstructs the latch for opening the tailgate, AND the number plate doesn't fit properly, (but I can always have a new plate cut). GRRRR

    Ah well, I'll keep it for now, at least until I have some sort of reversing camera installed.
     
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  7. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    I was bitching to some friends about my latest reversing camera not fitting, and they just got back to me and said that as it was my birthday recently, they'll pay to get my reversing camera fitted professionally. They already got it booked in for Monday morning next week (3rd November) at Oxford Car Audio. I just need to decide if I want to take them up on their offer, or if I want to go ahead and have a bash at it myself. Normally I'd be happy for someone else to do it, but there would be a big learning opportunity for me to do it myself.
     
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  8. Nighthawk Guest

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    Very nice of them to offer that to you, but as you say, its a nice learning opportunity for yourself and, more importantly in my opinion, the opportunity to get that buzz about knowing that you installed something new correctly by yourself. That is always a great feeling.
     
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  9. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    I've made the decision to get the reversing camera installed professionally. I know I am missing an opportunity here, but I personally feel that at this stage, I would prefer someone else does it properly, and then I can go back in and see how they did it.

    So once it's all done and working, and weather permitting, I'll open up all the paneling and trim to have a look at how it was installed, taking pictures along the way.

    I've given the reversing camera in the number plate, along with the wireless connecting kit and the rear view mirror with built in screen to a mate of mine, and he's considering putting it in his Soarer or maybe his 5th Generation Civic, so I'll see if he lets me tag along and help when he does this (and take pictures if he does it in the Civic).
     
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  10. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    That's fair enough Roger, sometimes it better to hand the job over to professionals.
    You could always quiz them as to how they did it or why they did it a particular way.
     
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  11. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    Quite understandable @RogerH69. It will be interesting to see how it's done. Does the installer know his work is going to be scrutinised? No pressure for him.:Whistle:
     
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  12. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    From experience with them and reviews, they are quite a helpful bunch, so I was going thinking of checking back with them if I had questions after I had a look at the install.

    I actually made a point of NOT telling him I'll be checking what they do, and also taking pictures so y'all can comment. I wanted to make sure that they do the same level of work they normally would, so that I know the minimum of level of work I can expect from them if I use them in the future.
     
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  13. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Got my camera fitted - link

    This weekend, I'll look at taking off some of the body panels to see how and where they fed the video cable, and post pictures of their work.
     
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  14. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Woke up to find a perfect blue sky, so I took the opportunity (before it clouds over and starts raining, which it has done now :Laughing:) to get this finished.

    I originally had a number plate holder mounted reversing camera I wanted to fit myself, but saw it would not fit without drilling holes in the tailgate, so some mates arranged for a professional fitting of a smaller, separate reversing camera. This latter one was fitted and worked great, but I found another number plate holder mounted reversing camera, which looked like it had more chance of fitting. Below shows how I mounted it (and also how the previous one was mounted).

    Note - I will not be showing the soldering of the camera power lead, or the main run of the video cable and it's connection to the head unit (or the connection of the head unit to the reverse gear sensor), which is why I am not writing this as a DIY guide (for a guide I would want it to be as complete as possible).

    First, the blowout diagram of the tailgate interior trim (references to numbers below will refer back to the numbers in the blowout diagram)
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    Using a small flat screw driver, or a trim removal tool, unclip one end of the upper tailgate lining assembly (2)
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    Once loose, pull it slowly but firmly towards you (try not to twist it too much - rather pull straight out if possible), releasing the clips all the way along it's length
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    Below shows the location of the clips at the rear of the upper tailgate lining assembly
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    Then proceed to remove the side tailgate garnish assemblies (3 and 7) by slowly but firmly pulling them away from the body of the car (it's best to use 2 hands and once again, try not to twist the garnish assembly too much). When you get to the bottom of the side tailgate garnish assembly, you have to slide it up as you pull it out, as it clips into the bottom of lower tailgate lining assembly
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    Below shows the clips on the side tailgate garnish assemblies
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    Remove the tailgate lining lid (6) by prying it off with a small flat screw driver, or trim removal tool
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    Remove the screw inside the tailgate grip recess
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    Push the centers of these 2 clips (8 and 9) in (not too far) and use a small flat screw driver or a trim removal tool to remove the clips
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    Remove the lower tailgate lining assembly by pulling it away from the tailgate. Below shows the locations of the clips on the rear of the lower tailgate lining assembly
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    You now have full access to the tailgate. Shown below is the wiring of the existing camera (yellow RCA is video, black RCA is power)
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    And how it feeds across the tailgate
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    Following the other wiring in the tailgate
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    It then feeds up the side of the tailgate (hidden, as it's inside the body of the tailgate itself), and through the plastic seal / plug at the top of the tailgate
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    The red cable shows where the video and power cable have been fed back into the body of the car
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    The cables then run down the side of the rear body of the car
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    At which stage the video cable splits off to be fed through to the front of the car
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    And the power cables continues down to the reverse light, where it has been soldered onto the power cables for the reverse light, thus enabling the camera to come on whenever reverse gear is engaged.
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    So, to replace the existing camera, I first detach the cables from the body of the car
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    As you can see, the cable from the camera has been fed through a hole made in one of the number plate light housings, so I need to remove the number plate light housing, by squeezing the clip on the one side of the housing
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    And then pushing it through to the outside of the tailgate
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    This then allows me to start feeding the camera cable back through the hole 20141109_114017.JPG

    Until it is free
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    I then need to remove these 2 screws, freeing the reversing camera from the number plate trim
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    Using the same holes and screw that held the previous number plate in place, I can now fit the number plate holder
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    Then lift the number plate light housing
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    And feed the cables through one at a time
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    And then replace the number plate light housing
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    And just to be safe, surround the hole in the number plate housing with some silicone sealant, both outside
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    and inside
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    Then connect the video and power cables to the existing ones from the previous camera
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    Once everything is confirmed as working, the camera video and power cables properly
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    You can then replace the tailgate trim in the reverse order that you removed it in. Note that to replace the 2 clips (8 and 9) you removed earlier, you need to push the pin a little through the top of the clip. Do this by spreading the ends of the plastic pin as below
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    And pushing it through the clip, as so 20141109_123625.JPG

    Replace the lower tailgate lining assembly, and insert the clip with the extended center pin
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    and push the pins back in, so that they are flush with the head of the clip
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    When replacing the upper tailgate lining assembly (2), ensure that the cover for the high level brake light is flush with the windscreen
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    And the finished product
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    The picture on this camera is not as sharp as the previous one, but it could be related to how bright it is outside today. Nonetheless, the camera works, and has guidance lines.
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    After tilting it down a bit
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    Last edited: Sunday 9th Nov, 2014
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  15. Nighthawk Guest

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    Lovely @RogerH69, do you mind if I put this as a seperate DIY so that others researching the same thing can find it?

    Incidentally, whilst you were back there, did you see how that chrome trim comes off for those rust spots?
     
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  16. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Thanks @Nighthawk . I didn't want to put it as a DIY as it does not show everything, but if you think it's fine as is, then go ahead.

    From what I can see, the chrome trim comes off by undoing a couple of bolts
     
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  17. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    That's nicely documented. It looks like the company you chose did a very professional job.
     
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  18. Duc de Pommfrit Moderator Staff Team

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    Another great detailed guide :Niceone:
     
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  19. RogerH69 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Yeah. I took it to Oxford Car Audio and was very happy with their work. Been there a couple of times and never had any complaints.
     
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  20. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    Nicely done @RogerH69. IMHO, the number plate camera looks much better.
    Did you seal the two holes in the chrome trim where the previous camera was mounted?
     
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