Aftermarket Kit FR-V auto gearstick removal?

Discussion in '1st Generation (2004-2011)' started by stim, Saturday 13th Sep, 2014.

  1. stim Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi... Had a go at getting into the stereo section of the dashboard, as per Colinbos' instructions here:
    Aftermarket Kit - DIY dash removal to get at my Double DIN radio. • Honda Karma

    Like Colin I've found the dash element around the heater controls wants to release with just a tug, but... gotten stuck at this first step, as my dash involves removal around an Auto gearstick - which has a much larger head and a smaller opening to fit through!

    There's also some switchgear wiring in the head and threading down into the shifter stalk with limited slack and no unpluggable connectors which makes the method of removal very unclear.

    Photos attached show steps so far and detail of the gear head. The main dash element here does not appear to release around the smaller strip surround at the gearstick.

    Does anyone know how to remove the dash around an Auto stick, including gearstick removal if necessary?
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  2. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    @Beefy, may have the answer to this one.
     
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  3. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Since Beefy has not responded I will jump in sorry for the delay @stim here goes I am including the entire A/T Shift Lever Ring Replacement & disassembly in case you need it.

    First all these is the overall exploded diagram
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    RHD Model A/T Shift Lever Disassembly/Reassembly

    1) Remove the shift lever assembly.

    2) Wrap the end of a flat-tip screwdriver with tape, pry the D3 switch cover, and remove the D3 switch cover.

    AT FRV HK Shift Lever Ring Replacement 1.PNG

    3) Remove the D3 switch (A) by expanding its locks (B) from the shift lever knob.

    4) Remove the screws (C), and remove the shift lever button (D), spring (E), and shift lever knob (F).
    AT FRV HK Shift Lever Ring Replacement 2.PNG
    5) Remove the harness band.
    AT FRV HK Shift Lever Ring Replacement 3.PNG
    6) Pry the lock covers (A) from the D3 switch/shift lock solenoid/park pin switch/A/T gear position indicator panel light connector (B), and remove the covers.

    7) Remove the terminal (C) from the connector by pushing the lock tab (D) in the connector using a thin blade screwdriver (E). Remove all terminals, and replace the connector.
    AT FRV HK Shift Lever Ring Replacement 4.PNG

    8) Remove the A/T gear position indicator panel light socket (A) from the A/T gear position indicator panel (B), and remove the indicator panel, shift lever ring, and D3 switch.

    9) Replace the shift lever ring.

    10)Insert the D3 switch harness (C) into the shift lever ring (D) through the shift lever (E), and install the shift lever ring and A/T gear position indicator panel over the shift lever/bracket base assembly.

    11)Install the A/T gear position indicator panel light socket in the indicator panel.
    AT FRV HK Shift Lever Ring Replacement 5.PNG
    12) Install the D3 switch harness (WHT) terminals (A) in the No. 5 and No. 6 cavities. Either D3 switch harness terminal can be installed in the No. 5 and No. 6 cavities.

    13) Install the A/T gear position indicator panel light harness (RED/BLK) terminals (B) in the No. 1 and No. 4 cavities. Either indicator panel light harness terminal can be installed in the No. 1 and No. 4 cavities.

    14) Install the park pin switch harness (GRN) terminals (C) in the No. 2 and No. 3 cavities. Either park pin switch harness terminal can be installed in the No. 2 and No. 3 cavities.

    15)Install the shift lock solenoid RED harness terminal (D) in the No. 7 cavity, and shift lock solenoid BLK harness terminal (E) in the No. 8 cavity.

    16)Make sure that all eight terminals lock securely, then install the lock covers (F) securely on the D3 switch/shift lock solenoid/park pin switch/A/T gear position indicator panel light connector (G).
    AT FRV HK Shift Lever Ring Replacement 6.PNG
    17) Route the D3 switch harness (A) along the harness guide (B), place the mark (C) of the D3 switch harness on the guide, and route the shift lock solenoid harness, park pin switch harness, and indicator panel light harness along the D3 switch harness.

    18)Take a slack out of the harnesses, and tie the harnesses with the new band (D) at the guide.

    AT FRV HK Shift Lever Ring Replacement 7.PNG

    19) Apply silicone grease to the top of the shift lever rod (A), to the shift lever button spring (B), and to the area of the shift lever button (C) connected with the shift lever rod.

    20) Install the shift lever button spring and button in the shift lever knob (D), and install the shift lever knob over the shift lever.

    21) Apply non-hardening thread lock sealant to the screw threads, and secure the shift lever knob with the screws (E).

    22)Install the D3 switch (F) and D3 switch cover (G) on the shift lever knob.
    AT FRV HK Shift Lever Ring Replacement 8.PNG
    A/T Shift Lever Installation to follow
     
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    A/T Shift Lever Installation
    1.Cover around the opening of the dashboard with tape to prevent damage to the dashboard, if necessary.

    2.Install the shift lever assembly (A) in the dashboard.

    3. Connect the connector (B).
    • RHD model: D3 switch/shift lock solenoid/park pin switch/A/T gear position indicator panel light connector (8P)
    • LHD model: D3 switch/park pin switch/A/T gear position indicator panel light connector (6P) and shift lock solenoid connector (2P)
    4.Turn the ignition switch ON (II), and verify that the R position indicator comes on at the gauge assembly
    AT Shift Lever Installation.PNG

    5. If necessary, push the shift cable (A) until it stops, and release it. Pull the shift cable back one step so that the shift cable is in R. Do not hold the shift cable guide (B) to adjust the shift position.

    6. Turn the ignition switch OFF.
    AT Shift Lever Installation 1.PNG
    7. Make sure the shift lever is in R, and insert a 6.0 mm (0.24 in.) pin (A) into the positioning hole (B) on the shift lever bracket base and through the positioning hole on the shift lever. The shift lever is secured in the R position.
    AT Shift Lever Installation 2.PNG

    8. Rotate the socket holder (A) on the shift cable (B) to place the tab (C) on the holder opposite the opening (D) in the socket holder bracket (E). Align the holder with the opening in the bracket, then slide the holder into the bracket. Rotate the holder a quarter turn until the holder lock (F) stops to secure the shift cable. Do not install the shift cable by twisting the shift cable guide (G).
    AT Shift Lever Installation 3.PNG

    9. Install the shift cable (A) in the shift cable end holder (B). Keep the shift cable end and end holder free of grease.

    AT Shift Lever Installation 4.PNG
    10.Install the new shift cable lock (A) to secure the shift cable end and shift cable end holder, then push the lock tab (B) up until it stops to lock the joint.

    AT Shift Lever Installation 5.PNG
    11.Remove the 6.0 mm (0.24 in.) pin that was installed to hold the shift lever.

    12. Set the parking brake. Start the engine, and move the shift lever through all positions three times.

    13.Check the shift lever operation, A/T gear position indicator operation, and shift lock operation.
     
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  5. stim Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Thanks for the detailed instructions on the gearstick assembly!

    As it turned out, the job was very simple - magic ingredient was just the right tools as usual. One trim removal kit later and it all worked beautifully. Ratchet set with extension for releasing double-DIN screw mounts was essential as well.

    Pictures posted here for the benefit of any other Auto owners who want to access the stereo area.

    This is only a partial set really, just to complement the super-helpful information already posted. Thanks all, really appreciate being able to get advice from others like this.
    Guides - FR-V dash-board cubby hole removal?
    Aftermarket Kit - DIY dash removal to get at my Double DIN radio.

    1 - removed cubby pocket, prised out aircon control panel. Note the gear shift indicator panel stays in place, with the hole in the aircon panel large enough to fit the gear shit knob through later on.
    Edix Audio refit 001 [2014-11-15].
    2 - Remove shift lever button. See detailed visual notes above, but essentially sequence is - pop off D3 button, then switch cover, then switch; Unscrew two screws behind to release lever knob from lever rod; lift up lever knob on lever rod, allowing removal of shift lever button and spring [catch it, keep it!!].
    Edix Audio refit 007 [2014-11-15].
    3 - Rotate the loosened lever knob 90 degrees on the rod
    Edix Audio refit 008 [2014-11-15].
    4 - Pull the aircon panel over the top of the knob. Unplug aircon panel connections, note where the go....
    Edix Audio refit 009 [2014-11-15]. Edix Audio refit 011 [2014-11-15].
    5 - Remove panel between aircon control panel and floor; then remove drinks holder assembly. With the drinks holder out you can access the double-DIN mount screws, and then pull out the stereo and fascia as one, taking care with the connections etc. Refer to Colinbos' instructions on screws etc for these steps.
    Edix Audio refit 013 [2014-11-15].
    6 - With the stereo and fascia out, do whatever is needed.

    My stereo on this car, a japanese import resold in NZ, was a 2004 Addzest Max 540 HD, a sub-brand from Clarion, with great features such as MP3 ripping and video in, and loads of audio processing. Very japanese domestic market I understand. A CD got stuck in the unit soon after we got the car, which really stuffed us - I really didn't want to listen to the remaining MP3's left on the unit by the previous owner in Japan. Nice.

    I went ahead with this project after finding an original Clarion connector for this unit, which broke out 4x RCA for stereo out and video in/out, with the intent of setting it up for a simple 3.5mm jack to plug into whatever phone/ipod/ipad we might want to use. Good ol' google led me to a shopfront on Rakuten, some kind of japanese online marketplace that I understand from friends who have lived in the country is pretty trustworthy. These guys were fantastic, quick delivery and very direct service. 30NZD, 15GBP all-in, delivered from japan in around a week. Recommended as a source, particularly for anyone else in NZ with a japanese import car + stereo...
    creeronlineshop | Rakuten Global Market: Video input / picture output cable for 500 Clarion ★ CCA-623-navigators

    For anyone with this model of stereo - the RCA audio input is output by switching to "TV" as an input.

    Terrible out-of-focus shot of the connector plugged into the back of the stereo, ready to go back in:
    Edix Audio refit 016 [2014-11-15].
    7 - Reassemble. The RCA's hung nicely in place below the stereo ready to plug into a whatever converter I wanted to use as the final connector.
    Edix Audio refit 017 [2014-11-15].
    8 - In reassembling I managed to accidentally pull the drinks holder extension assembly from it's housing. There's a simple little spring that helps it retract and stay in place, shown here. All pretty easy to put back together.
    Edix Audio refit 018 [2014-11-15].
    9 - Lower panel, then aircon panel back on, then gear knob reassembly. Picture shows omits the cubby hole liner - I drilled a hole in the top right of this to feed the 3.5mm jack through, neatly out of sight. Don't forget to pass the cord through before putting the cubby back....
    Edix Audio refit 023 [2014-11-15].

    JD. Happy wife, who can access her music without us having to shell out a few hundred bucks for a new double-DIN. An iPhone or USB direct interface would have been welcome, but in the end there's now too many options on this front (multiple connectors in use in our house), and the audio quality is absolutely fine. Most of the time it's an old iPod Nano which stays in the car - the "shake to shuffle" makes a convenient control option when driving, not too distracting.
     
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  6. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    That's a great little write up Tim :Thumbup:
     
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  7. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    Excellent work there @stim, might be worth submitting it as a guide so others can find it in the future more easily.
     
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