Suspension, Steering and Brakes Front shock absorber gaiters

Discussion in '3rd Generation (2006-2012)' started by Mike c, Thursday 8th Jan, 2015.

  1. Mike c Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Hi,
    Here we go again- as per this time last year I decided to have my CR-V MOT done by an independent MOT station who I consider to be one of the better ones in the area. (They do the job correctly). After sitting in the waiting area for the prescribed time I was told the car had passed again with no advisories. Great I thought!
    Today my CR-V was collected by my local dealer to receive its service as Is the case every time. An hour after the collection I received a phone call from the dealership saying that there was s few minor things that require their attention. Oh!
    Hand brake needs adjustment ; NO, it has just passed the MOT with no requirement for adjustment . I purposely asked the MOT man to check this as this is what happened last year.
    Brake fluid is in poor condition- changed both fluids in 2013. This was also checked prior to the set vice and it is as new! This was also quoted last year! Strangely addictive he clutch one also "failed" last year but not this year even though it is the same fluid!
    Battery is low- No I have just done a round trip of 400 miles and charged the battery just before the trip anyway. The indicator was showing fully charged.
    The technician says that BOTH front shock absorber top gaiters are split.
    My car is very clean both on top and underneath and I am positive that the tester would have soon spotted a single split never mind two.
    I have yet to see the car since its service so it will be interesting to see HOW CLEAN these splits are?
    Anyway has anyone else had to change these gaiters and if so what cost/ how difficult to do?
    Honda quoted £315!
    This is the last of the three prepaid services with the dealership I think I shall look ok elsewhere next year.
    Regards
    Mike c
     
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  2. roelfarm Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    I was told by a mechanic that servicing in a garage is more thorough than the MOT test. Split or rotten Shock Gaters not an MOT failure. Not as yet anyway. Unless anyone can tell me differently.
     
  3. Beefy Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    You are confusing MOT guidelines to a service perspective. In general a defect has to be excessive to fail an MOT. However a technician carrying out a service multi point check will advise on other items needing attention either urgently or in the near future. Regards the handbrake so long as it doesn't hit its stop there can be 20 or so clicks and almost hitting your chin for MOT. So long as one wheel locks up and efficiency is ok it's a pass. In a service perspective however it needs adjustment. Brake fluid condition unless actually checked with a tester can be subjective. Did the garage you took it too have a record of the brake fluid being changed in 2013?

    Regards the shock absorber boots it's becoming a common issue on CR-V's. the boot material has been changed because it perishes and splits. I will start a thread showing this soon. It requires removing the front shockers and stripping them down to replace hence the cost.
     
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  4. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Dare I say European rubber vendors can't cut the mustard even today,when Japanese rubber vendor since the 1950's have been teaching others how rubber components are really made.
     
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  5. Beefy Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    By the way. If it was me servicing your car I would just adjust your handbrake regardless of what service it is.
     
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  6. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    That is you all over..there are very few beefy's in this world who looks and does personal touches for customers without asking as you feel its the right thing to do., That's the Honda principle which is lost sadly today, I am glad its not lost with you. You have been trained the old school Honda way by a very good trainer... Like I was well in 90's back then I got back in the hands by the Japanese trainers but it wasn't malicious they really wanted to teach you the correct way.

    Perfectionism in today world is a dieing art and with Honda purists like you there is hope. Beefy you should be so proud of your achievements reminds me of my time of Honda. don't tell people tell you otherwise if they do say otherwise send those "£$%^*%£ to me.
     
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  7. smcnei Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Well said Ichiban--and totally agree.Well done Beefy.
     
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  8. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    Stick to your principles and standards Adam. It's hard I know, but be true to yourself. and you can always hold your head up high. :sparta:
     
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  9. basher Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Apparently, I also have a gaiter split and have been quoted £202 to replace one and £374 if I want both doing! I just cannot believe how expensive this is and will probably dust my old spanners off and do it myself. I asked how much it would cost to replace both shock absorbers and was quoted £700!....I then fell over and hit the floor.
     
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  10. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Crazy prices. Gaiters you could yourself but changing shocks, for safety purposes best left to a garage to do.
     
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  11. ArcticFire-Account Closed Banned Getting Started

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    OEM dust covers are showing as £58 each but you can get FEBEST ones at £20 each. Does the CR-V has some insane removal procedure to make the removal of front shocks so complicated or time consuming as it looks like they are quoting about 2.5 hours of work?

    I just had my MOT done and it passed no problem with the only items noted being the rear seat belt not being tested because my child seat was still attached and my front dust covers showing signs of splitting but they said it was so minimal they didn't even put it in the health check report done at the same time.

    I'm going to replace mine when the weather warms up as I don't want crap getting into the shocks and I'll probably do a DIY. Obviously you need to be careful when using spring compressors and if in doubt then I'd just get a good independent garage to do it as it shouldn't be a specialised job.
     
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  12. basher Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    I've asked an indie for a comparative quote so it'll be very interesting to see the difference. I believe you are right regarding the time they have allocated. It is many years since I did this to a car and I have the tools to do it but I'm also very good at messing things up but at £200 per side I'll give it a go.

    the split in mine is quite large and I believe they kind of unpeel if left.
     
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  13. Mike c Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Does anyone have a sketch / breakdown showing these gaiters, they don't seem show them selves when looking under the bonnet or from underneath. I have changed shockers before but cannot see the ones on the CR-V.
     
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  14. basher Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    It can be seen from under the arch, inside the spring at the top of the shock absorber. It's a concertina rubber construction
     
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  15. Mike c Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Thanks, I must have a look next weekend - weather permitting
    Mike c
     
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  16. basher Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Mike, these gaiters are not part of the MOT and are not a safety issue according to the Indie. His honest advice to me is to leave them until I need new shock as in his opinion it is a waste of money for me to replace the gaiter alone.
     
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  17. Wizard Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Mine are split and have been for well over a year.

    Nothing mentioned at MOT's or service?

    I go to loads of garages with my job and have asked a few mechanics and they say don't worry about, so I don't :Smile:
     
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  18. roelfarm Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    I replaced mine at the weekend. CR-V 3rd Generation. Just some items of note

    I had to replace the drop links because the alan key wouldn't grip the ball end. The existing drop links were easy to take off using mole grips with a bit of heat but it ruined the rubber bellows.
    Pieces of the old gaiter had pushed itself up hard between the shock bar and bump stop.
    The bottom rubbers were in good condition.
    If I am going to do this again I will buy new drop links, gaiters, bump stops, and bottom rubbers.

    All done now. I found it easy but fiddly.
     
  19. Denso23 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    hi guys, I have a 2.4 petrol 2012 estate accord and during a recent inspection of the car I noticed one of the rear shock absorber gaiters was slightly ripped.

    Has anyone else seen this on their accord. Causing no problems but I like to keep my car in good condition so probably will get it fixed. I also have a 2006 accord diesel that has no splits in gaiter so guess unlucky on this one.

    Here is a pic of the gaiter:
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