General Help with buying a used accord

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  1. olamike New Member Getting Started

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    Hello everyone,

    I am looking at getting a used honda accord 2.2 diesel 2004 Reg with 140k miles on it. i previously have a volvo s40.

    my question is what show i be looking at for, what are the pitfalls with regards to Honda Accords especially the 2004 diesel.

    any other advise will be appreciated - I am hoping you good people on the forum will help out.

    thanks

    Ola
     
  2. Dave Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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  3. exec Premium Member Club Supporter

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    How many miles a year do you do?
     
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  4. olamike New Member Getting Started

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    I am doing about 8000 to 9000miles
     
  5. exec Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Thats not many miles, I would also say avoid diesel and go with with a petrol.
     
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  6. olamike New Member Getting Started

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    hi all,
    thanks for all the advise
    @Dave apart from the issues in the link you posted is there anything else i should be looking at?

    my current situation is the garage i am looking at has an accord (diesel) and a vw passat 1.9d(2003), i have always been an admiral of honda thou never owned one hence why i have come here for advise. i don't really have an option of choosing between a petrol or diesel accord so my question is - if i decide to go for the honda accord instead of passat and i look out for the issues in the link above, will i be making the right decision? the honda is selling for £2000 will that be a good deal.

    thanks
     
  7. Dave Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Clutch slipping, noisy dual mass flywheel, is there any wheel wobble around 60-70mph on test drive if so possible drive shaft faults. VSA/ABS lights on are all very expensive jobs.

    I don't know much about the VW's but the 1.9tdi is a decent motor and will be more economical than the Accord! As an example Golf 1.9TDI estate with 4 people and luggage was doing over 10mpg more than my Accord with 2 people in it when we went to France and ran in a convoy at the same speed!

    I would buy a petrol like @exec has said.
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    Have you any links to the cars for sale?
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    Oh and if its got sat nav built in the DVD drives pack up too, that's the same on petrols too.
     
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  8. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Yes but then again the Honda isn't blatantly chucking out high emissions on the move, which is probably where the extra 10MPG is coming.

    Diesels are fine if you are doing lots of miles but can be costly when things go wrong (that goes for any make). Hence why everyone is suggesting you go for a petrol @olamike
     
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  9. Dave Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    @SpeedyGee this was a 2004 golf with the old 1.9 engine in, regardless of whether it was spewing out high emissions or not it used a lot less fuel than the Accord like when I filled up he was putting £20 less a tank in to fill back up and we both had full tanks when we set off needless to say my fuel bill for the holiday was a lot more than his!

    I don't want @olamike to think that a diesel Accord is going to do 50-60mpg I can't even get 50mpg out of mine if I drive everywhere like miss daisy!
     
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  11. olamike New Member Getting Started

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    here are the link :
    Used Honda Accord Saloon 2.2 I Ctdi Executive 4dr in Crewe, Cheshire | Advantage Vehicles

    Used Volkswagen Passat Saloon 1.9 Tdi Pd S 4dr in Crewe, Cheshire | Advantage Vehicles
     
  12. exec Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Out of the two, the Honda is vastly better in nearly everyway bar probably fuel economy, but with the miles your doing you won't see much benefit anyway. Not just saying this because it's a Honda and your on a Honda club forum, but the Accord is a whole generation newer, more modern, much better equipped, looks tons better, much much better to drive, lower miles. The Passat is a 1996 car! It's facelift of the B5 model cam eout in 1996, it's really old platform and dated, pretty spartan specced too, high miles, looks poop and they are really bland to drive and not exactly cheap IMO at £1300, thats a lot of money for what is essentially a 20 year old design now.
     
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  13. Dave Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Only looking on my phone but that Accord is listed as having sat nav and that doesn't look like a sat nav head unit to me...
     
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  14. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    Spot on @Dave. No sat nav on that one.

    @olamike The guys here can point out all the more common or costly things that could go wrong for you. However. with a car of that age, it all depends on how she's been used and how she's been serviced/maintained.

    A few things to consider:
    Using the wrong oil or running with old oil is a sure fire way to wear the internal timing chain.
    Hard driving or re-maps will case excessive soot which will cause EGR issues.
    Cracked exhaust manifolds are also an issue.
    If the DMF and clutch need changing, or go in a years time, not only are the parts expensive, they must be fitted by a specialist who has the correct tools. (Usually only kept by Honda dealers and Honda specialists)

    Unless you are very confident about the service history and the way previous owners have treated the car, stay clear. If not, you're playing Russian roulette.
    I had an i-CTDi Accord for over 10 years, and she was brilliant. Never had any of these issues, but I looked after her!

    It would be far better to hold fire and wait for a petrol Accord.


    I cannot comment about the VW, other than I would never buy one, or accept one if it was given to me.
     
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  15. Dave Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I bought my Accord I-CTDI with 134k miles on the clock at 4yrs old with FSH.

    So far this is what I've had go wrong.

    Alternator £150 replaced by myself using non genuine parts.

    2 x rear calipers replaced by myself using non genuine parts £120 (Tourers only have this problem)

    Clutch replaced by Honda I also got them to replace the DMF £1200

    Cracked exhaust manifold which was welded back up in return for some favours so I only paid for parts which was around £80

    I looked earlier on and there are lots of petrol Accords for around 2k with less mileage than this diesel. Don't get me wrong the diesel is a good car mines almost on 195k miles now and I'm not planning on replacing it yet it's just if you find a bad one it will be the ultimate money pit but that goes for any car!

    One thing I will say is that Honda petrol engines are bullet proof and will go forever!
     
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  16. olamike New Member Getting Started

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    thanx everyone your advise is very much appreciated. quick question, the garage offers a 15 months warranty for 199 - if i can get this added will this make any difference then or will the advise still be stay away from diesel.
    thank you
     
  17. exec Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Stay away from diesel, are you in desperate need of this car? Otherwise just wait for a petrol to come along, that warranty won't also be worth the paper its written on, they wriggle out of any repairs, just a way to make money for them.
     
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  18. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    If there's a full Honda service history AND the test drive is good, then it's your call (Ideally take someone very experience with you)

    However, at that age, I still think petrol is better. You just don't know what's lurking inside there...
     
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  19. olamike New Member Getting Started

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    Thanks all, much appreciated
     
  20. ArcticFire-Account Closed Banned Getting Started

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    I'd go petrol also. There probably won't be a huge economy difference between the petrol and a diesel of that age over those kind of miles.
     
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