Engine & Gearbox Honda Civic FK2 Type -R Turbo Drivetrain Components

Discussion in '9th Generation (2012-2017)' started by Ichiban, Monday 31st Aug, 2015.

  1. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    I have been just comparing the clutch set up on the new CTR to find a new drivetrain components which are sourced all here in blighty. Now UK has a lot of high end motorsport outfits offering the best clutch systems in the world but I cannot see those suppliers supplying the clutches for the new CTR.

    So who is the supplier to the new CTR? I think its LuK clutches the same people who supply the diesel cars. The biggest concern I have is the new CTR uses a DMF!! yes people you heard it's a DMF :thumbdown: the flywheel weight a massive 14Kgs

    We all know the DMF's supplied and designed for the Diesel cars are less than impressive but to see a similar set up on the new CTR make me wonder how long will it be before we see issues.

    Here is the exploded diagram and Honda part numbers.,

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    Item 2:- 22100-R3P-013 Flywheel Complete Assembly

    Item 3:- 22200-R3P-003 Disc Complete,Friction

    Item 4:- 22300-R3P-003 Disc Complete,Pressure
     
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  2. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    That's a little scary. The CTR will be driven hard by most owners so this could cost in the long run.
     
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  3. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Apparently all turbo cars, both petrol & diesel, now days have DMF's. When I queried this @Beefy posted details of the DMF used in the Type-R & it has metal springs, not neoprene as some other manufacturers. After thrashing the Type-R around the ring, and WCTC racing, I am sure any failings in Honda's DMF will have been eradicated. So DMF's can be expected in all versions of 2017 MY Civic.
    Maybe @Beefy can advise if Civic Type-R type of DMF is used in current Honda diesel's?
     
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  4. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Lol diesel and performance don't go together you know that surely


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  5. Beefy Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Yes the 1.6 I-DTEC has DMF
     
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  6. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Does it have metal springs as one used in Civic Type-R?
     
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  7. Beefy Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    It won't be the same DMF I can assure you of that. As regards type of springs I can't say for certain.
     
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  8. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Type-R May have a heavy flywheel but there is no lag in revs dropping when changing up, as could happen with my 8th Generation 2.4EXi Accord, gears & clutch action are excellent. Clutch not noticeably heavier than either S2000 or Accord even though it has to deal with much higher torque forces.
     
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  9. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Weight will nothing to do with contrction or durablity.

    The CTR flywheel weights 13.840 Kgs the 1.6 I-DTEC flywheel weighs 14,585 Kgs.
     
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  10. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    @Ichiban should the title of this post be "FK2" as I believe "FN2" is 8th Generation non turbo model?
     
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  11. Denso23 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    I also do have a look at civinfo where a lot of fk2 members post messages. There have been a few cases of gearbox issues with gear selection issues.

    I guess these are teething problems Honda will have but sure will get better soon. Anyway I do think Honda NA are a bit more bulletproof proposition but Honda turbo engine with DMF is still reliable
     
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  12. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    My 65 Reg Type-R at 4.5k miles has excellent gear selection & clutch action & no slack in transmission. I also negotiated two additional years full Honda Manufacturers warranty so have nearly another fours years remaining.
    Found the "civicinfo" site a bit flaky when accessed using Edge browser & it locked up. Will give it a try using IE11 and Chrome to see if any better, but it does not appear to be as well structured as this forum.
     
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