General Honda Ranked 25 for total European Sales

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  1. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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  2. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Not surprising as Honda are not chasing volumes they want to be a specialised car manufacture for a small niche. Look at my HR-V ordered in January it will be delivered in June, which quite frankly means they are controlling the numbers of car entering into the market. The dealer are not allowed to make dealer registration to fudge the figures.

    A lot of manufactures sales are 60% dealer registrations which is not a true reflection of cars actually handed to customers. I personally think the auto trade in Europe is in a mess this so called high sales is all smokes and mirrors.
     
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  3. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    What model of HR-V are you getting?
    I tried both the manual petrol & diesel versions & found the diesel more refined ie quieter on motorway than petrol & when accelerating.
    Delivery delays of HR-V's in UK are due to Honda prioritising the USA market.
     
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  4. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    1.6 I-DTEC in EX. Yes North America is taking the lion share for the new HR-V which are petrol cars with autoboxes.
     
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  5. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    My apologies I did not notice the addition to your garage. I always thought you were dead set against diesel?
    In various web sites only found one complaint of someone with Honda CR-V SR 2WD 120 1.6i-DTEC who had serious problems. No apparent problems with EGR valves, Dual Mass Flywheels or DPF. Dealer advised that my 15 miles journeys to tennis club would be OK for Honda 1.6 i_DTEC Civic diesel.
     
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  6. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    I hate diesel still do but my hands been forced I have to choose a diesel car. My company won't allow petrol cars which are far far superior , polished and refine which a diesel will never ever match. I don't look at reports majority of them are idiot owners who don't know what they doing and they end up causing the issues. I haven't seen any major issues with the 1.6 diesel so far in my dealing.
     
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    God dammed yanks
     
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  8. tomwillie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    In USA the 1.8 engine @ 140 BHP is used with CVT auto transmission. The problem Honda have in Europe is that with such low sales they have to keep the emissions low on every model they sell to keep within EU emission regulations.

    Also the 1.8 Honda engine currently used has higher emissions than VW/Audi group 1.4TSi engine which the 150bhp version gives their Civic sized cars a performance not far short of my 2.4EXi Accord.

    Let's hope Honda catch up with engines for the new Civic due in 2017 which should have an advantage over the VW/Audi 1.4TSi engine in not having a cam belt that needs expensive changes.
     
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  9. FirstHonda Premium Member Club Supporter

    VAG with their TSi petrol engines, Ford with the 3-cylinder 'Econetic' - even Mazda are in on the act with 'Skyactiv.'

    The Honda petrol offerings look pretty old tech in comparison with fewer miles to the gallon and higher emissions. Reliable though...:Smile:
     
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  10. John Dickson Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    My immediate reaction on seeing the title of this thread was "Really? That high?"
     
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  11. FirstHonda Premium Member Club Supporter

    :Rolf::Rolf::Rolf:

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