Suspension, Steering and Brakes Molykote M77 grease. Any scientists out there?

Discussion in '1st Generation (2004-2011)' started by mike787, Tuesday 9th Apr, 2013.

  1. mike787 Banned ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    I wasn’t sure if this should go under the dealers/servicing thread. I’m sure it will be moved if it has been posted incorrectly!
    Anyhow, I know there are some small references to this lubricant which is used with brake pad replacement elsewhere; but I have a bit of info and hopefully we can find out more with the help of a specialist.
    I have just obtained genuine Honda replacement front and rear pads for my 09 reg' petrol FR-V from a Honda dealer. The boxes were sealed and I had no need to open them. I’ve read all the info kindly posted by other users of the forum and I’m 'ready to go’ with replacement as and when. What I don’t know is if I need to buy the grease! I rang the supplier who were a great help. The guy in the parts department advised me that the replacement brake pad kits for the newer Honda cars come with a small sachet of the grease in the kit. Owners of older models need to buy the grease as a separate item. We were both unsure if the packs I had been sent contained the grease. He went into his store room and I went to open my sealed boxes. Thankfully it was supplied with the pads. I can confirm it’s part number listed elsewhere on the forum, 43231-SBO-315. Had it not been supplied, at today’s price, the sachet has a list price of £5.06 + vat and postage. The sachet measures 5cm x 3cm x 6mm. VERY expensive!
    Now for the scientists out there. The grease in the small packet resembles a grease with a brand name of ‘Molyslip', which I already hold a tube of, but is Molykote M77 the same as Molyslip? A tube of the latter is many, many times cheaper!
     
  2. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    What type of molyslip is this do you have a part number or technical name for the type of molyslip product it is ?

    MSDS for M77 is http://www1.dowcorning.com/DataFiles/090007b2813885f8.pdf

    once you get your exact name for molyslip in google type it in with MSDS along with it.

    Personally I have been using M77 for two year and it the best thing since slice bread it last forever and even reptead heavy washing it does not come off. sod the expense of the grease it best grease for pads and retainers .
     
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  3. mike787 Banned ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi IchibanAccord, this is the stuff my dad, (God bless him), swore by and instructed me to always have to hand in addition to Copperslip. It’s the size of a toothpaste tube, 85grms. Its marked Molybdenum Disulphide. No other information other than made by ‘Slip' in England. It gets everywhere and is very hard to wash off! This tube will last for years and it goes without saying this tube is years old!
    If it is the same as M77, then I’d better put it in the safe judging by Honda’s prices for their sachets! LOL

    P1020623. P1020624.

    How sad, posting a picture of a tube of grease! But hey, if someone can save then why not? (If it is the right stuff)
     
  4. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Your dad is a WISE man :Hey:

    Dude don't worry about posting things about the grease.. it not sad. It one of the major things missed on brake service as people know better and make mistakes. So thank you for posting this thread its good to see you have interest in this subject.

    After looking at these old school gems yes they do have the magic MD you can use them on pads and shims. don't use them on sliders you need silicone grease.

    They knew then it was miraculous grease and its is still today also :Hooray:
     
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  5. mike787 Banned ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    So this CAN be used instead of Honda's Molykote M77? If so, I wonder why their price is so high for a mere 8 grams. Packaging can’t be that expensive!
    Any future readers may be able to source some Molyslip on a well known auction site or perhaps I could let a bit of mine go.... for a price LOL.
    Dad was a very good man and taught me the important things for a good life.
     
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    The price is with all thing some retailers charge maximum retail price and some don't .. shop around hang around here more you will soon know where to buy your honda parts.

    new molyslip gear needs vetting they are not all the same :Smile:

    Your dad is like mine a sticker for conformance no shortcuts do it right otherwise no point doing it.
     
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  7. rayhoop Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    I've just been digging around. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like the humble Carlube Silicone Grease has similar properties:

    General Temp Range
    M77 = -45 to 450+
    Carlube = -40 to 400+

    Both are said to be safe on rubber and plastic.

    However I cannot find any details on what the carlube silicon contains (silicon!? lol). And the tech data for Carlube does not break down the operating temps for wet versus dry.

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    Thoughts?
     
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  8. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Rayhoop the temp range is not a debate on this subject M77 grease is not supposed to be used on sliders only on the pads , M77 has more clinging power than silicone grease with general washing silicone grease will come off.

    M77 stop pad corrosion with it long life and properties.silicone grease contained in the slider in it perfectly sealed slider pin & rubber boot making it immune to the elements.
     
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  9. rayhoop Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    ah ic! Now where is the 'penny drops' emoticon...
     
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  10. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    I must find that emoticon:Wassat:
     
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