General New DPF Inspections For MOT From Feb 2014

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TheDarkKnight, Friday 6th Dec, 2013.

  1. TheDarkKnight Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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  2. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    ...and thus died the DPF removal modification in one fell swoop. I actually agree with the government's decision on this, doesn't happen very often.
     
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  3. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    won't have happened if Labour was in power ..bunch of do gooder and advocates of leave the door wide open for everything.
     
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  4. TheDarkKnight Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Agreed and about time.

    It will stop illegal file upload "specialists" from gutting the innards of a DPF and remapping the ECU too. can't wait to see the vendors of remaps and DPF removals get screwed for this....its legislation that was needed when DPFs first emerged. Better late than never!
     
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    The only way this could be checked at an MOT is visually. The current emissions testing equipment is not sensitive enough to recognize and fail a car which has had the DPF removed. So if the owner has just had the insides of the DPF removed and the carcass is still there then surely the car will still pass?! This problem will continue until they bring out better emissions testing equipment which can detect the removal of the DPF via the emissions. This legislation is no more than a sticking plaster over a gaping wound, and a second hand one at that.
     
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    I don't agree with this becoming law, it should be down to choice.
    Because the Government knows that they are very expensive to replace when anything goes wrong with them which will mean more cars being scrapped because not many people will be be able to pay for a new one. :Smile:
     
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  7. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    The reasons we're all so against DPF removal is the amount of crap diesels chuck into the atmosphere. Far worse than Petrols, not that the government would have you believe this.
     
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    While I think the concept of the DPF is a better one than a normal catalytic converter their design surrounding the regeneration process has been problematic for all manufacturers when the car does anything but live on a motorway. But a lot of this can be resolved by the owners being educated about which fuel, petrol or diesel, is better for their driving habits when they buy cars rather than just choosing a diesel because they believe it to be more economical. Hopefully the small turbo petrol generation will replace all the diesel city drivers and relegate diesels back to the motorways.
     
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  9. TheDarkKnight Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Highly irresponsible viewpoint.

    If its about choice, 100% of people will choose not to bother with an MOT and drive around in defective cars that will drive up accident rates. Sorry, I have heard some inane things on car forums in the past but that one is really "out there"...
     
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    Whether you have a DPF or not it isn't going to cause an accident, is it now?

    I never mentioned about not having an MOT, I was sticking to the overall discussion of this what this thread was about.
    It's unlawful not to wear a crash helmet on a motorbike, however I think it should be down to choice, why? because my cousin was killed in an accident not by the accident itself but because the whiplash from his helmet broke his neck.

    Anyway I happen to know the good and bad points of owning a diesel, if you do a lot of miles they are ideal but are no good especially if you only drive short distances as I do.
     
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  11. TheDarkKnight Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    I didnt equate the DPF with accidents - duh! :Blink:

    My point was that you inferred that DPF checks should be down to choice. So if people omit testing the DPF, then what else in the MOT test would people like to omit? Where would you draw the line....? "Oh, I don't fancy testing my windscreen wipers, or my brake lights etc...."

    Thats where I brought in the point about not having an MOT test at all if people could "choose"...

    And no, diesels are not good if you do lots of miles in a stop/start environment. Diesels advantage (if it can be called that) is on long runs with minimal/no stops at higher speeds (national speed limited roads or m-ways) where fuel economy is realised and the DPF has little/no chance of being clogged due to regens at higher ambient operating temperatures. But anyway, I digress.
     
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  12. candobill Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

    next thing you know we won't need tax discs :OTT: I wonder what the gov gonna save getting rid of the disc :Search:

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    I am keeping my old discs and putting them away as future collectors items along with my collection of disc holders, my grandchildren will have a legacy :Happy::Happy:
     
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  13. Neil Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Now your being ridiculous and I'm not going to have an argument over this. I am entitled to my opinion whether or not you can see that.

    However Tax Discs as they are now, yes I do think they should be gotten rid of especially in there current state.
    Look at the system that Germany has, even Spain.
    Far better and harder to reproduce. :Smile:
     
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