Electrical & Lights Reversing sensors

Discussion in '4th Generation (2013-2017)' started by FR-V, Saturday 16th Jan, 2016.

  1. FR-V Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    In preparation for the arrival of my new ride I have been removing my bike rack bracket from the towbar on Fatty, and thought occurred. Will the reversing sensors pick up this lump of steel and sound constantly, or will the system learn to ignore it? It is for a MaxxRaxx and is fairly substantial.
    Never had these new fangled gismos before! :help: IMG_20160116_202946. IMG_20160116_202910.
     
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    Don't you just love a work bench with older tools,jam jars old butter trays a proper workman table. I just use old towels to make things stand so I don't lose stuff.
     
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    And an old fart in a welding pinney flinging spanners at ancient British motorbikes! :Drinks:

    I have not been on the forum for a while so have only just caught up with your sorry Jazz saga CJ. It speaks volumes of your commitment to Honda that you would even consider another new one.
    Sorry about the fate of the Milkfloat but as has already been said, it was just a lump of machinery.
    Fatty had a little argument with the back of an Evoque last year and I had to go on bended knee in case she was written off as uneconomic, but thankfully she was repaired and is now even better than ever. I hope the next owner appreciates my effort!
    The thing that REALLY shocked me is that your next one will be an oil burner :Messed:
    And not even made in Japan!!!
    Are you sure that run you had after the scroat that killed the Mlikfloat didn't dislodge your brain??:Pathead:

    Happy new weasel!:overtired:
     
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    Aint it fun tinkering with old bikes, that my passion. Thanks for your words about the milkfloat , yeah the oil burner is not what I want r to t live but the HR-V does drive really well albeit being Mexican.

    I will use the weseal like a donkey no early oil changes supermarket fuel , annual servicing at 12k miles lets see how she fairs.
     
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    Great, that will give a baseline to measure our pampered pets against!
     
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    Right, back on track with the reason for the thread.........I have been doing some research and it seems that there can be problems if you don't use Honda's dedicated wiring for the towbar. Canbus, reversing sensors, ECU and VSA settings update for towing, trailer assist etc. etc. etc.
    The obvious answer is to have the Honda towbar fitted by the main agent, but I need a flange type so I can fit the bike rack and both the Honda bars are swan neck type. I can go to a specialist tow bar fitter for a Witter towbar and insist on the (expensive) dedicated wiring to be installed, but will he be able to do the ECU updates?
    Honda prices are not too bad if you ignore the optional "live feed to your trailer". A length of cable with what looks like a fuse and/or relay.......£195 !!!! WTF??? I am guessing that is for the Alko electric stability system, which thankfully I don't have on my van.
    I didn't have this problem with Fatty, just took her in to my usual towbar man, Witter fitted, job done!

    Advice please.

    Pete C.
     
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    I had a Honda approved tow bar fitted by the supplying main dealer when I bought the car new. It all works OK but my understanding is that the reversing sensors should cancel automatically when going into reverse with the tow bar fitted and the trailer attached. Mine don't and have to be switched off with the switch to the right of the steering wheel.

    I will take this up with the dealer when (eventually with my low mileage) I take it in for its 1st service. I do wonder however if it relates to the fact I have the latest 13 pin outlet on the car but have fitted a 7 pin adapter to it as the trailer I use has the old 7 pin plug.

    I do believe that unless you have the full Honda wiring loom the car won't set itself up as it should for towing but does it matter if all you have attached is a cycle rack as you're not actually towing anything. If the rear sensors do alarm then you can just turn them off with the switch.

    Keith
     
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    Thanks Keith, I have also read about problems with the Honda kit turning the fridge feed off if it senses low load. Apparently the cure from Honda is to drive with your lights on! As you can guess from that I do tow a caravan and want to use the bike rack whilst the van is attached, hence the need for a flanged bar which Honda don't supply. I also thought the £195 live feed was only needed if you had the Alko active hitch system but no, it is the fridge/charging feed - you know, the one that turns itself off! Bargain!:brickwall:
    It is put into perspective when I got a quote for a Witter though, the dedicated wiring kit is £220!
    My FR-V's Witter towbar was under £300 fitted and working perfectly, so upgrading to a modern all singing CR-V is proving unexpectedly expensive:Aghast:.

    Pete C.
     
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    Thanks Pete.

    I didn't realise you towed a caravan. When you do get your all singing all dancing tow bar and electrics, let me know if it does automatically cancel the rear proximity alarms automatically without having to switch them off manually (which incidentally also switches the front ones off as well).

    It's funny but I suspect there are not many CR-V owners who tow as this subject doesn't get many responses on here. When I had the Yeti, there was a wealth of information, threads, etc. on tow bars on their forums.

    Keith
     
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    I have noticed this too Keith, maybe the "dudes" on here don't want to be identified as fuddy duddy caravaners :gotcha:
    The info I got came from the Caravan Club forum and the British Campsites forum.
    Plenty of other invaluable Honda stuff on this excellent site though, saved me thousands! :clap:

    Pete C
     
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    Update on the reversing sensors. No, they don't turn off automatically but there is a way to switch off just the rear ones. The procedure is in the bible, as mentioned before, but it is a bit fiddly and my previous efforts didn't seem to work.
    Today I figured it out and now my rear sensors are OFF! Fronts still working and I still have the reversing camera so one happy bunny:Happy:

    Pete C.
     
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  12. FirstHonda Premium Member Club Supporter

    Excellent news.

    I'm pretty sure that there is a procedure in that handbook somewhere for raising the dead, or conjuring up Satan...:Devil:
     
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    I think you'll find that on page 666
     
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  14. karlak Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    We have a Honda fitted 13 pin towbar and pulling a 7 pin trailer the Senors do remain on. I haven't tried it with a 13 pin yet and ALKO hitch, but am hoping to get Caravan shortly.

    I was a bit concerned about reports of fuses blowing when hooked up to a 13 pin connection, can't remember if it was to do with the ATC or the Fridge. I did pop round a friends house and hooked up to his caravan - the ATC made the right noises and the light went green, as well as the fridge running from the cars power. Hopefully, this means mine has been wired correctly, although I didn't get a chance to tow as his Caravan is too heavy.

    Completely forgot to test the rear sensors while hooked up.
     
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  15. 155695 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    I think we've established that the rear sensors don't turn off automatically. I only tow a trailer now and again, so if the noise is too much when reversing I will just turn them off. I suppose it's only a quick press of a button by your right knee but it's gauling that it would be so easy for Honda to do the right thing like most other manufacturers.
     
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    The main advantage to me of being able to turn off just the rear sensors is that I don't have to re move the towbar after arriving on site (it's the towbar that sets them off). I can then use my bike rack to take the bike to places further afield for a ride.

    Pete C.:drinking:
     
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    That surprises me because I've got the Honda supplied and approved Bosal one and it certainly doesn't activate the alarm on its own without the trailer. What towbar do you have?

    Keith
     
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    Hi Keith, the Honda supplied swan neck towbars are no use to me as I use a flange mounted detachable cycle carrier while towing. This means there is a large lump of metal (as shown in the photo at the start of this thread) activating the sensors. I have also read that putting the towbar cover on crooked sets them off too.
    Honda refused to fit an approved Witter bar so I had to go elsewhere for a detachable flange type bar and dedicated 13 pin electrics.

    Pete C.
     
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    Well it's only when you're reversing so I suppose it's not too inconvenient but it does mean the you lose the warning facility. If you've got a camera it's less of a problem.

    It is amazing what you get used to though, having been driving since 1967 it's only in the last 5 years or so I've had sensors/camera and in all that time I don 't recall reversing into anything, just had to take bit more care which isn't a bad thing.

    Keith
     
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  20. FR-V Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Ditto Keith, we must be about the same age :wheelchair:
    When we started cars were much smaller and had proper bumpers, then they put big bouncy rubber ones on so people got used to parking by feel. Now, however, there are acres of shiney and expensive plastic on the front and back of our cars and even a small shunt can cost thousands to repair (don't ask me how I know! :Whistle:)
    This is the first car I have had with parking sensors but my last motorhome had a reversing camera and I loved it, so when I bought the CR-V it had to be the SE at least. At my age I need all the help I can get!

    Pete C.
     
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