General Steelers Quoted £190 for a Diff Flush. What are your thoughts?

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  1. Jay_B Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    First CR-V so I would not I have a clue, but £190 seams a little excessive for a diff flush, what do you think?
     
  2. ArcticFire-Account Closed Banned Getting Started

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    Yep, sure does!

    Which CR-V do you have?

    Personally, I'd just do it myself and the CR-V has so much clearance it's a very easy job to do especially if you get the right tools which aren't expensive.

    -> A fluid change is 1.2L, however, for a proper flush you'll need double so that's 3 litres of Honda's Diff fluid (only get Honda as it's dual pump and pretty specific I believe). You'll be looking around about £12 a bottle I think so there's £36.

    -> Then you need this: amazon.co.uk/Draper-DDPK7-DRAIN-PLUG-SQUARE/dp/B0002BUTBM/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1412349941&sr=8-6&keywords=3%2F8+drain+plug+key (although I bought this instead as I like tools lol: Laser Drain Plug Key Set 14 Pieces | Servicing Tools | Screwfix.com

    -> And this: Hilka Pro-Craft Oil Suction Gun 500cc | Oils | Screwfix.com or this:

    -> And a 3/8 drive torque wrench. I'd get a decent one as it's something I use a lot but if you are doing this on a budget then there are ones such as this:


    To summarise:

    x3 1 litre bottles of Honda Dual Pump Diff Fluid £36
    x1 3/8 Square Drive Drain Plug Key £3.37 (can be used for MTF replacement)
    x1 Fluid Pump £9.99 (can be used for MTF replacement)
    x1 3/8 Torque Wrench £23.19 (can be used for loads of jobs on the Honda where torque values are important, oil changes, MTF changes, rear diff changes etc - i.e. when tightening into softer alloy.)

    Total Price: £72.55 but you have the tools to do it yourself again and if you do a lot of local driving then it will need done more often, plus these tools will also help with doing the MTF change.

    On the rear diff there are two square drive bolts, one for filling and one for draining. Always remove the fill bolt first because if you remove the drain one first and drain the fluid then find the fill bolt won't budge then you are stranded. They can be on tight if never removed but the bolts are chunky and the square drive gives excellent grip so don't worry about giving it some muscle.

    Make sure you've just driven the car and the diff fluid is nice and warm. Drive the back end up on ramps or jack up and make safe with axle stands etc.

    For a full flush then you simply remove the drain plug and the fluid will drain out, then put it back on to the correct torque. Remove the fill plug and fill up using the suction gun (because you won't be able to lift the bottle high enough to pour directly in) until the fluid dribbles out. Stick the bolt back on (and torque to the required value).

    Drive the car for about 5-10 miles then repeat the above process. The first batch of fresh fluid should help flush out any crap that never came out with the old fluid.

    That's it. I'm about to put together a DIY with photos hopefully this weekend and you'll see how easy it is. :Smile:
     
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  4. Jay_B Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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  5. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    I haven't heard of them, but if going the independent route I would recommend going to see @hondavtecr at Phoenix Close Honda Specialists in Heywood by Manchester, should be 30-45 minutes away from you.
     
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  6. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Hello mate have you inquired what they do for this job? Ask them first then you will realise it not a drain and new oil.
     
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  7. Jay_B Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Yeah !! i hear you Ichiban... dealers process was described to me as leaving the engine running all day to heat up the diff before they drain and fill twice to get ride of the contaminations thoroughly, maybe i understood it wrong still seams expensive and excessive or i am being cheap? Independent (ex Honda Tech) offered to do it for a 1/3 of the price D.S Autos Bradford ... described the same process with leaving The V on the ramp jacked up some how to insure that the diff was engaged.

    Difference Independent 1hr job done £60 Vs Dealers All Day, Hire Car £190, was also interesting to see that on Honda recommend retail chart it quotes £75 for the job, or have I misunderstood?

    Dilemma! - is this Independent a trusted mechanic??

    Be honest I would rather do it myself after seeing how easy it is.. nevertheless looking forward to seeing articfire's picture tutorial...
     
  8. ArcticFire-Account Closed Banned Getting Started

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    Not sure how just leaving the engine running will heat up the fluid, I would have thought it really needs driving. If you do put it in somewhere put a little black paint over the bolts so you can be sure it's been done as the paint will have been broken. But honestly, it's a very straight forward job.
     
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  9. nsxer Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

    Rip off !!

    My Indy mech done it for me in about 20m
    Just get the proper oil for the diff
    Flush the oil
    Then engage the 4WD - I went for a rip round a field for a bit
    I plan to change fluid every 15k unless someone tells me otherwise and where possible head somewhere to engage 4WD the odd time throughout the year
     
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  10. rikernumber1 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Barrets Honda in Canterbury quoted me £300 for a diff fluid change. I didn't take them up on their generous offer, but they did advise that the best way to engage the AWD was to ensure all 4 wheels were off the ground whilst running the car in gear - this also ensures the fluid is properly warm. I had the supplying garage do this for me as a 'warranty' job, although I supplied the fluid and the instructions from Honda to ensure the AWD engaged. It stopped the diff knocking under braking. I will also be changing the fluid every 1-2 years or every 12-24k miles.
     
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  11. Jay_B Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Great news all sorted ...

    Big thanks to the Dennis and John at DS Auto Services Shipley...
     
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  12. Chunkylover53 Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Canterbury Honda are a damn rip off - they quoted me £120 plus £60 for a diagnostic when my indy did it for £40.

    When I called them the only thing they genuinely cared about was the fact that my car was on the road despite it not being serviced by Honda since 2002.
     
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  13. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    Diagnostic is only £60 with most dealers, that's terrible.
     
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  15. rikernumber1 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    No updates from me on this. I have noticed an occasional slight knock when braking, but it's not consistent. I've been doing a lot of miles since I bought it and it's going to need a service before Christmas, so I may get my trusted mechanic to do the diff again using the specific Honda instructions - probably do the ATF as well, as it will be at 76k soon.
     
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  16. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Cool keep us posted bud, if that noise get worse you will need to act fast.
     
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  17. ArcticFire-Account Closed Banned Getting Started

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    Just to put a thought out there but my car makes a knocking sound when braking but I noticed it was only after washing it and goes away after a short time. I think it's just the brake shoes or something moving slightly when wet. Is there any chance it could be this?

    I'm hoping to do the Rear Diff fluid guide tomorrow and get it up here, I would really just do it yourself for complete peace of mind or watch your garage do it. Far too important to not be 100% on and could end up costing you a lot of money.
     
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