General Supermarket Fuels versus Oil Companies

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by FR-V, Thursday 14th Feb, 2013.

  1. FR-V Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    I know this has been covered somewhere on here before, but I can't find where I read it! :Blushing:

    I have toured Europe for the last decade or so in diesel motorhomes and have found the quality of the fuel available to be variable to say the least. In central Spain I am sure they sell recycled TVO, and even in France both trucks ( a 2.0 HDI Pug and a 2.3 JTD Fiat) smoked - although in fairness they had no problems apart from a lack of power on the Spanish muck (but we were in the mountains!).

    The 2.2 I-CTDI engine is a lot more complicated than the Sevel lumps and from comments on here seems to be much more fussy what it is given to drink. This is my first diesel car so I am being VERY careful not to fill it with unleaded!

    So, what do I use in the FR-V when dragging a wheeled bungalow around France this summer? She is making do with Morrison's finest at the moment :Aghast: and runs fine, but the added strain of tugging duty may alter this.

    All advice greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. Dave Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    When I've been in France I've used Carrefours finest diesel and my Tourer was ok plus it's cheap as chips compared to over here!
     
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  3. i-DSI Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Went several times to France, car and MC. Diesel in the past, last 6 years petrol. Never had any trouble.
    I paid attention to the general appearance of the petrol station in the first place. Than I looked at the price.
    General appearance to avoid filling up from an old, rusty reservoir.
     
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  4. RobB Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Me too their fuel is fine.
     
  5. FR-V Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Thanks for the feedback guys, I shall stick to good branded sites when I get over there.

    I have been following Primarycare's thread about his fuel filter and will stop using supermarket diesel from now on! My nearest petrol station is Esso, is their diesel as good as Shell?
    And I thought that ethanol in my classic bikes was a problem!:Unknown:
     
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  6. Dave Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Just want to say that I've run mine on supermarket fuel for the last 3 years and I've had no problems used a genuine fuel filter and changed it after 20k miles.
     
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  7. SayamaAccord Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

    Many people have no problems true enough.

    I had a bad tankful a while back when the car was running rough as rats and nearly cutting out at traffic lights...topped up with Shell and it was fine...never gone back to a supermarket filling station since...except for Casino on holiday in France, no problems.

    Just wondering about PrimaryCare's non-Honda fuel filter...
     
  8. i-DSI Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Classic bikes?? Honda's? CB750 1969 or alike?
     
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  9. FR-V Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Bit before that - 1928 New Imperial, 1956 Excelsior, 1959 Raleigh and an R.E. 350 Bullet at the moment. Had a few Hondas in the past but nothing bigger than a 250 SuperDream, others were a Suzuki GS250, Yamaha 650 Maxim, and assorted BMW, Matchless, Velocette, Triumph, BSA etc over the last 48 years (my Granpa gave me the Raleigh when I was still at school and I was hooked!)
     
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  10. Primarycare Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Just spent £117.00 getting mine sorted. I won't be buying tesco or any other supermarket fuel again BP garage close ish to me is 1p a litre more so for peace of mind I will be going there from here on.

    I spoke to tesco manager and he admitted could have been dregs as they were very low and due a delivery!
    Spoke to tesco customer service and they said had not had any other complains and if I could prove to their satisfaction it was poor or dirty fuel they may consider a claim! Given I had a full service and new fuel filter fitted in December I think it was prob not the filter at fault. Odd that few miles after filling up it all goes wrong. Branded fuel only fir me now.
     
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  11. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    All major petroleum firms will delivery quality products , supermarket fuel are powered by Horse Pee. Look beyond the supermarket points break that cycle of better value.
     
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  12. Rob Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    I must admit, I thought my pal was talking out of his bottom when he said that supermarket fuel was of poorer quality to that of Shell etc. But my motor definatetly runs further on a tank full of the Shell stuff.
     
  13. Primarycare Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Odd one this, Avonvale said it was a non genuine Bosch filter, so I rang Riachard Saunders Honda who did the service. They are adamant it was a genuine Honda filter and kind of hinted that the fault probably started with "cheap" diesel of as they put it questionable quality. Look identical to the old filter to me and don't see why a Main dealer would fit a non genuine filter?
    Sour grapes I suspect..
     
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  14. shayequr01 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    I have not trusted supermarket fuels since the news of Morrisons 'dirty fuel' scandal a few years ago.

    Not worth it in my opinion and it seems that better fuel lasts slightly longer. I may be wrong though.
     
  15. Paul Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I only ever use supermarket fuels as there's not much else near me. Touch wood I've never had a problem and usually average just under 50mpg on a full tank.
     
  16. Robbie Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    I always use Shell diesel in my CR-V. I have posted elsewhere on here that I topped up with Asda diesel in my Accord when I was towing my caravan. I got 25mpg going down to Dorset. Returning home I topped up with Shell and then got 30 MPG. I have stuck to Shell since then.
     
  17. Pottermus Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I always use Sainsburys value diesel, but the tank before last I filled with Shell V-Power because work paid for it. Didn't notice a blind bit of difference.
     
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  18. FR-V Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    I have to admit that the best MPG I have acheived so far (50mpg over 150 miles, Louth to MK) was on 50/50 Shell standard diesel/Morrisons. I think that the driving conditions affect economy far more than the fuel, but I shall still favour branded diesel - especially when towing!
     
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  19. FirstHonda Premium Member Club Supporter

    Having read this thread, I've moved to using Shell, BP or Esso (over supermarkets) for my diesel - just the regular stuff, not the advanced products.

    It may be all in my mind (!) but I swear the car runs sweeter now :Smile:
     
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  20. ArcticFire-Account Closed Banned Getting Started

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    I don't think I can get past the mental barrier that supermarket fuel could be a risk as we all know they'll look for the cheapest deal when sourcing which usually means the cheapest quality. They can't be trusted with beef so why trust them with fuel? It just seems a little counterproductive to give your Honda so much loving with regular servicing and genuine Honda parts only to shove Ground Chuck in her instead of Filet Mignon!
     
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