Engine & Gearbox Temperature Rising

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  1. zedFRV Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi all

    Looking for some help I have a 06 Honda FR-V 1.7 petrol

    Recently having problem with the car temperature after a long motorway drive and getting back into the city noticed the car temperature started rising all the way up... pulled over to have a look and seen water was leaking out the top of the overflow tank of the radiator. Waited till it cooled top up radiator and was ok for a few days but it's started happening again. I've parked it on a hill and topped up radiator to avoid getting air in the system but that's not helping... Any suggestions would be great

    Thanks
     
  2. legend-ary Moderator Staff Team

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    Hello @zedFRV
    sorry to hear about your issues. What is the current mileage of the car and did you get any work done on the car recently?
     
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  3. zedFRV Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi thanks you for ur message

    Mileage is 175000

    Had oil and brakes changed recently
     
  4. jd1959 Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    :welcome: Thermostat would be a place to start, if there is no reason air would be in the system. If its been warmed up for a little bit the top and bottom radiator hoses should feel about the same temperature. If not probably the thermostat stuck closed.
     
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  5. zedFRV Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Anybody have a similar issue or come across anything like this before
     
  6. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    As Zack said in the post above it could simply be a faulty thermostat.

    That would be the first thing to have checked. Get this checked first and see how that goes.
     
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  7. Bones126 Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Also check / replace the rad / overflow tank cap as if it is not fitting correctly now (seal may be faulty) the system will not be pressurised which will mean the water will biol at a lower temp, hence over heat quicker.
     
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  8. zedFRV Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi all

    Thermostat was all good it was diagnosed with a blown head gasket

    We managed to change the head gasket full set and got the block cut.. but now we are getting a cloudy white smoke coming out of the exhaust which is not clearing

    Opened up the exhaust manifold and looks like there's oil leaking into the exhaust

    Any idea what it can be?
     
  9. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Head gasket ! (one possibility). I assume the head for torqued in sequence and to spec ? I don't know if head bolts are re-usuable for R series engines, were they and if so did you follow the procedure for re-used head bolts ?

    Another.. valve stem seals, I assume you have the head skimmed, to do this the head would have needed to be stripped. When it was put back together were new valve stem seals used or the old ones ? I'm guessing one of them is damaged or not put on properly.

    You had the block skimmed ?
    Was it found not to be flat ? That's unusual.
     
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  10. zedFRV Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Yes head was skimmed and new stem seals were put.. Head was also torqued in sequence and to spec

    Old bolts were used
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    Sorry what is the procedure for using old head bolts?
     
  11. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    I'd have to look it up for the D17 engine.
     
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  12. zedFRV Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Thanks mate
    Il have to ask if anything was done with the bolts..

    Do you reckon one of the stem seals were faulty?

    We noticed the valve springs are coloured white and black do you know which springs are for the exhaust are which are for the intake ?

    Thanks for the help
     
  13. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    I think this is the most likely cause.
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    Exhaust = Black (easy to remember .. sooty on that side) :Grin:
    Intake = White
     
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  14. zedFRV Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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  15. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    There's no procedure stated for using old head bolts in the service manual.

    Only one procedure stated as below

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  16. jd1959 Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    Head gasket failure would do it, what a pain. Hope it gets sorted quickly.
     
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  17. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    If it's head gasket a leak down would help verify this or a wet and dry compression test.

    If it's valve stem seal for em exhaust side, you'll only notice a bit of smoke on first start up. Once engine is started the wool won't get past the seal as they be exhaust pressure on the other side of it.
     
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