Electrical & Lights Used/Reconditioned SRS Airbag Control Unit Required - Part No. 77960-SED-E81

Discussion in '7th Generation (2003-2008) [Acura TSX]' started by ciderman21, Friday 27th Sep, 2013.

  1. ciderman21 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi guys,

    Following in-depth diagnostics, I have been reliably informed by my Honda main dealer that I need to replace the above. I'm not prepared to pay their prices for a 2004 car i.e. £600 for the part + £320 labour to fit!

    I'm trying to source the above part ASAP. I've tried auction sites, various breakers and breaker networks and also airbag system repair specialists, but no luck at present.

    If anybody can assist or happens to know someone who might be able to help, I will be very grateful.

    Thanks,
    Steve

    ps: moderators, sorry if I've posted this in the wrong section, I couldn't see a "For Sale/Wanted" section
     
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  2. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    I've just done an ebay search for "accord SRS" and there is one on there at the moment for an Accord Tourer, £30 plus postage.

    You'll probably need to get someone with Honda HDS to reset it once its installed.
     
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  3. PeteMM Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Just as a side note, should you have an accident and the insurance see you have used a reconditioned one, they will void your insurance.

    It was something I looked into in depth when I had a big accident at the start of the year as I wanted to repair the vehicle myself, but the £300 difference between the new and recon ones made them look very tempting. Also, IIRC there is a lot of dodgy people selling "reconditioned" ones that are simply unsafe to use in any way, shape or form. Loads of horrow stories about them deploying the airbags at random times when driving.
     
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  4. ciderman21 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Thanks for the response. I looked at that one on ebay yesterday. If you look at the image, its not the corrrct part no. It says SEG not SED. It's not from an EX.
    Thanks anyway,
    Steve
     
  5. ciderman21 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Thanks for the response.
    can't really see an accident investigator looking at that part and identifying it as a reconditioned part IMHO. In any event, Honda aren't going to be getting over 900 quid out of me for a car worth 3500. Worst case scenario, I will sell it prior to it's MOT. More concerning to me is what you said about horror stories regarding random deployment of the airbags while driving. Perhaps you could expand on that and provide links/url's to these stories. Btw, I always do my research indepth to ensure I don't purchase from some “dodgy“ seller. I would be looking for a minimum 3 year guarantee.

    Thanks, Steve
     
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    *UPDATE*

    Finally managed to source the part from a salvage yard. Paid £96 total for the part including delivery. The part was from the exact same spec car as mine that had been rear-ended (airbags hadn't deployed). Fella from dashwarninglights came to my house yesterday morning and fitted the part for £40. Took him about 40 minutes. Started the car, light went out and hasn't come on since. Well chuffed, saved myself nearly £800!

    Steve
     
  7. chrissy Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi.

    It's an old thread but hopefully it's being monitored.

    I have an airbag light on. Honda have said I need a new SRS control module. I have Found One On EBay With the same part number but the date on mine is 10 03 07 and this eBay one is 06. Can I still use it?

    Thanks.
     
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  8. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Are the part numbers the same ?

    You may need to connect up HDS to reset the airbag system afterwards.

    Also I'd like to bring up the point of using second hand SRS components. With a safety system such as airbag system, perhaps you would want to only purchase new items.
     
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  9. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    I believe I might have one, infact I went through all of this with my '03 Accord (which I eventually broke for parts, but let's not go there). I replaced several sensors showing issues, the control unit itself and all sorts to no avail - even Honda couldn't sort it.

    I still have my original control unit, as well as the replacement I'd brought. The bad news is that I am not with the car at the moment and am in the middle of moving house, however that part number looks the same, but I can't confirm right away.

    Each variation of the 7th Generation has it's own control unit, the 2.0 is different to the 2.4, the saloon different to the tourer etc. However some of the trim levels do have the same control unit IIRC.
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    Damn, just found my original purchase invoice: 77960-SEA-E82
     
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  10. chrissy Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Thank you for the replies. My part number is 77960SEFE822M1 and it's for the 2.4 ex 57 plate. The part number on ebay is exactly the same but the manufacturer date is 06 where as mine is 07 and it's from a 2.2 diesel. In fact, all the ones coming up are from 2.2 diesels!. I'm just wondering whether the part number is the only thing that matters or should I be getting an 07 one from a 2.4 petrol. I'm being told by the seller it's from one that wasn't deployed so fingers crossed.
    I've noted the safety concern. It's just at the moment the full price is a no-go. Maybe in the future.
    When fitting it so I need to disconnect the battery, fit it and then reconnect the battery or is there something else I have to do?

    Thanks.
     
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  11. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    The part number is definitely all that matters, my point was that the part number varies heavily between different 7th Gens, but if you match them you'll be fine.

    Yes, disconnect the negative terminal from the battery, remove the ash tray, gear gaiter trim, then center cubby hole and DVD drive for best access, then I would recommend installing the unit in-situ by just plugging it in while it's hanging, then reconnect the negative cable and confirm the airbag light has gone out, before permanently installing it - just to save you any hassle if it doesn't work (as it didn't with mine).
     
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  12. chrissy Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi deviatedefiant

    Thank you very much for the advice. That's really great. I'll certainly do what you advised and will post back.

    Many thanks for your help ☺
     
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  13. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    No problem @chrissy, be good to hear how you get on :Smile:
     
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  14. chrissy Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi DeviateDefiant

    Well i had a crack at the SRS control module. It was a lot more difficult than I had anticipated. Removing the dvd drive was an absolute mission. T'was a new experience and i must admit...a great one :Smile:. Finally figured out how remove the dvd drive and then the pioneer amp(!!) to get to the module. Didn't remove the module but plugged the module in that i bought on ebay. Reconnected negative and got out of the car just in case an airbag was gonna choose to grace me with its presence :Laughing:... Turned the ignition and the light was still on. Went down to the local garage and got the car plugged into diagnostics and the module i'd got on ebay had been deployed!!! So the seller had lied.... a complete waste of a whole afternoon... and a week for the part to come!

    I'm in the process of finding another one... just hoping i can find one soon. There is something i'd like to bring to your attention actually...and primarily to get some expert advice. Have you ever come across BBA reman. ABS, ecu's, throttle bodies, air mass meters, MFD and catalytic converters The garage recommended this site? I'll hopefully get in contact with them as soon as poss but was wondering 'what it is' and 'is it worth it'? I Look forward to hearing from you and anyone else who can offer any advice...Many Thanks :Smile:
     
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  15. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    Oh mate, what a bummer. There's various companies on eBay which actually take deployed units and reset them, I don't know the procedure behind it as I don't believe you're meant to be able to reset them - @Beefy should be able to tell you more. I bet that's what happened with yours. They thought they'd reset it so could sell it on as undeployed.

    There's a guide on the site which covers most of the teardown (for the 'xcarlink' install), I should have linked you up!

    I haven't heard of them before, but they seem to hold quite a large range of Honda stock. Perhaps other members have.
     
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  16. chrissy Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Yeah makes sense. Yes they must have tried a reset already... or just trying to dupe the buyer! Yeah any input is great really. Not to worry about xcarlink :Smile: It was really interesting to get acquainted with the car like that! Hopefully i can build on the experience :Smile:
     
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  17. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    I seem to recall something about the Honda units once they have been deployed, you can't reset them ?

    Can someone confirm this ?
     
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  18. chrissy Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi SpeedyGee.

    Bad news for me then if it can't be reset :happycrying:

    I've been in contact with an eBay seller who has seen my diagnostics error code and said he can reset / rebuild it to factory settings. My code is on his listing...

    I've still not heard back from bba-reman.com.

    :Innocent:
     
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  19. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    I can't seem to recall where I got that info from, so it maybe false.
     
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  20. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    @SpeedyGee I remember coming across the exact same thing, if I remember correctly Steve from HH told me. Though as I say, I know there's at least companies who claim to be able to reset them about eBay like @chrissy has come across.
     
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