General Which Brake fluid to choose

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  1. intruder Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Hi all :Wave:
    Could anyone share their experience and recommendations of which brake fluid to chooce performance wise?
    Thanks in advice :Thumbup:

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    Gulf, Motul, Castrol or something else..? Can't decide, so need your advice guys.
    Is there any difference between brands? Or should I just compare the main details & prices of each? From what I can see at Opie Oils..
    Gulf offers 325'C (dry) & 205'C (wet) boiling point temperatures for a price of £12.85 / 500 ml
    Motul - 325'C & 204'C - £24.64 / 500 ml
    Castrol - 320'C & 270'C - £22.82 / 500 ml

    Should I look at something else? Some other details?
     
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  2. RobB Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I'd just get Honda's from HH mate.
     
  3. intruder Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Last time I went to Honda Bristol South to get some brake fluid, they gave me Wurth DOT 4 brake fluid... After I asked should it be Honda genuine brake fluid, they said "..this is what we are using now".
     
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  4. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    File them under the "Dealers to avoid" list :Wink:

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  5. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Honda will be very interested to hear that :telloff:
     
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  6. intruder Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Interesting.. I'm not making it up! I've still got those 3 bottles of Wurth fluid and a receipt. I didn't change my clutch fluid yet... :Blushing:

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    And what specs this Honda brake fluid got? Pretty standard my guess?
     
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  7. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    I have used this fluid for years as long as I can remember they first came out in metal tins:Wink: now the packaging has changed a few times. I change the brake fluid every year this year I am a bit late as I have too much on my hand but will have it done soon.The Honda ultra DOT 4 fluid may not be on the elite list of braking fluid nor its has the best spec in terms of boiling point and all the buzz words associated with performance fluids. Some say these fluid are under spec the racing stuff is better which they are ... when I counter act and say your street car is driven in the normal roads and not the tracks so why do you need it? I get varying opinions and views.

    Look at my front disc thread on my 7th Generation the discs and pads have 50k miles on it and plenty meat left on them I hardly use brakes so why do I need to have top notch stuff..
    All I am concerned its is the rubber parts of the braking system certain fluid are harsh and they attack them and over the years you will see things popping off. I am big advocate Honda fluids as all of them are tested rigorously by Honda for all the vehicles if it has their name on it ...it will be sound as pound that's from experience gleaned when I worked for Honda.

    Call me a Honda fanboy and I am proud of it, but nothing has EVER gone wrong with my car using Honda fluids.
     
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  8. intruder Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Thanks CJ, once again great & informative review! :Thumbup: You're a Honda fanboy no doubt! :lol:

    My case a bit different I'd say.. I often having a joy of quick acceleration, sharp cornering & harsh braking.. I demand a lot from my brakes (in fact from a whole car.. my front tyres were brand new last August, now nearly nothing left... a bit too quick :Blink:) Bad boy I'm, I know... My current front brake discs got like black area, which I guess due to hard braking with standard discs.. after putting on stronger discs will be much better for my driving habits I believe.

    So perhaps, If I'd go for a Gulf brake fluid, shouldn't happen anything wrong in my brake system, as long as it's DOT 4, I believe..
     
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  9. Brodziu Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    I had the same problem few days ago, what to choose, after few hours browsing internet snd reading rewievs I choosed ATE Type 200, bought from Germany £23 for 2 litres :Wink:
     
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  10. intruder Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Good price! What website did you buy it from?

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    Is there any particular reason why it's good fluid, Brodziu? :Wink:
     
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  11. Brodziu Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    I bought it from buycarparts.co.uk
    The reason I bought this is my friend who is selling brake parts recommended this to me, also it was good price and it does have good performance.
     
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  12. intruder Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Thanks mate! I'll check it out :Wink:

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    BTW, can I trust my handbook's maintenance schedule regarding brake fluid replacement intervals (every 3 years)?
     
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  13. Brodziu Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    I assume that you have OEM brake fluid now, so 3 years intervals are ok, but it depends from the owner in the end as I'm trying to change brake fluid every two years and oil every 6k miles not 12.5k as is said in handbook. Some brake fluids like motul rbf 660 require changing every year.
     
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  14. intruder Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    My car will be 6 years old this August, but just because I'll upgrade to those shiny nissin calipers mmmm :Whistle: would be smart to get a new brake fluid in at the same time. It will be a few months earlier than due date, but will be OK! Currently I believe there's a Honda fluid in a system. And a new fluid will be Gulf. After my long thoughts, decided to get a Gulf Competition RF1000 from Opie Oils. I will check for any usage details on Gulf fluid bottles, if nothing different, probably will stick to 3 years intervals.

    BTW, engine oil I do the same, Brodziu - every 6250 miles.

    And another thing.. I've spotted my current front calipers got engraved "Lucas" name.. Is it normaly what Honda uses as their genuine part? Or it might be that I've got aftermarket calipers?
     
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  15. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    The stock front calipers on your 7th Generation should be ATE and rear one are Lucas on a saloon. Can you get a picture of it.

    cheers
     
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  16. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Intruder I don't want to come across as discouraging or pulling up every small thing from you buying this fluid but I would seek opie oil for some clarity on that brake fluid for road use. if you read this http://www.opieoils.co.uk/pdfs/gulf-oil/Gulf-Competition-Brake-Fluid-TDS.pdf

    Under Applications

    • For best results, bleed the brake system before each race and refill the reservoir with fresh brake fluid, especially if the brakes have been very hot and/or local atmospheric conditions are very humid.

    I would say the performance window of this fluid is short lived as it has to give that best performance it has to be regularly changed. is it ideal for a roading going car?

    Find out mate , other than that the fluid is top notch.
     
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  17. intruder Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Ok, I'll double check, mate. Maybe I got confused.. :Unknown:

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    Thanks a lot CJ for spotting this out! I was nearly asleep yesterday possibly.. I'll get in touch with Opie Oils. My order isn't sent yet I think..

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    Great! I've been assured RF1000 fluid is absolutely fine for normal road use :Thumbup:

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    Yes CJ, my mistake :Sorry: rear calipers are Lucas! Not fronts. Sorry me :Innocent: At front calipers I couldn't see any engraving without taking a wheel off. Lets assume it's ATE, as you say.
     
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  18. i-DSI Expert Advisor ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    For what it's worth: me to, just like CJ have always used the genuine Honda brake fluid. No issues at all.
    And if you say that you like some hard accelleration, braking, cornering etc... you should know this can not be compared at all with driving on a circuit or racing on a circuit. Racing fluids are optimised for only one thing: performance. Durablility over a long period is not important.
     
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  19. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Instruder onthe front calipers the ATE stamping is really small you can hardly see it