General Accord front Track Control Arms, rough running on start up and ADAS grille

Discussion in '8th Generation (2008-2015) [Acura TSX]' started by Nigel Dore, Sunday 29th Oct, 2017.

  1. Nigel Dore Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    United Kingdom Nigel Norwich
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    Hi everyone.
    I've just joined this forum (please read my introduction and comments on Adrian Flux Insurance).
    My 2.2 I-DTEC Accord Tourer is going to need new front lower wishbones. On the basis that Honda don't actually make these, I've been looking for a more economical, yet high quality, aftermarket alternative. Unfortunately, I've found that brands like Febi Bilstein aren't drilled and tapped for the xenon headlamp levelling bracket on the near-side TCA. Has anyone any suggestions.
    My second query regards an issue where sometimes the engine runs unevenly on startup. This doesn't always happen though.
    Thirdly, at some point in it's life, the car has been fitted with an incorrect radiator grille. As my car has ADAS & LKAS fitted it needs the correct grille with the "H" emblem which acts as a radar lens. I've discovered that a new replacement is horrendously expensive. Does anyone know where I might pick up a used one in good condition?
    Any suggestions on any of the above points would be gratefully received.
     
  2. Nels Moderator Staff Team

    I've moved this to the correct section as this is not a Technical Article.

    I would presume that your Accord has had the front repaired and the owner at that time took the cheap option.
    If the ADAS system has been knocked out of alignment, then it is a very specialised and expensive procedure to reset it. Refitting the correct grill will not fix it.

    Honda usually keep parts for many, many years. Whilst your Accord is a 2008 model, they were still selling similar in 2015. A main dealer should be able to supply you with what you need.
     
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  3. Nigel Dore Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi Nels
    Thank you for your prompt response and advise.
    I can't confirm or deny whether the car has had an accident, but there is no obvious sign of repair.
    When I first got the car it had one of the "Sport" grilles in place with a mesh backing. I got a replacement non-ADAS grille for it, not knowing so at the time. It was only when I took it to my local dealer to find out why things weren't working that I found out that it had the wrong grille.
    The issue isn't getting the parts - the dealer gave me a cost - I was just hoping that a member might know of a Honda specialist breaker that I haven't discovered (I regularly search all the on-line auction sites) where I might find a nice used one. The cost of new is horrendous. On a positive note, we do have a specialist fairly close by that does alignment for all the local main dealers - Mercedes, VW, Audi, Volvo, etc., and Honda, of course, at a fraction of the cost and with very positive outcomes. However, I have to fit the correct grille as a first step.
     
  4. Bounder Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Why do your LCA need to be replaced? Surely fiitting 3 bushes in place of the old ones is far more cost effective that buying an entire arm unless it is bent?
     
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  5. Nigel Dore Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    United Kingdom Nigel Norwich
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    Hi Bounder
    Thanks for your advice. There are several reasons for replacing the TCA's. First, and foremost, knowing which bushes are going to be of a comparable quality to the Honda originals. I'm advised that there's an awful lot of crap out there, posing as O.E. quality. Secondly, I don't have the facility to replace the bushes. If I have to buy bushes, then pay someone to fit them, it's probably as cheap to buy new arms. Lastly, I can't do this job at home - I don't have a driveway. I need to know that I can remove the old arms and replace them both in the same day. It doesn't help that there's less daylight hours now.
     
  6. Bounder Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    The three genuine bushes should be 60 odd from a dealer. Genuine complete arms are 228 from Honda.
    Having just replaced my compliance bushes in my LCA on my 7th Generation they don't always go according to plan!
    One side came out fine, the N/S however was a different story, the vertical bolt through the bush was corroded to the bush steel inner, this necessitated the use of an Oxy-Acet torch as well as a pneumatic chisel and a 3ft power bar with a 4ft pipe on the end of it to get the bolt to shift!
    I'd be confident tackling a lot of things on my drive but having looked at how hard it was to move that bolt there is no way I could do that at home.
    I would think that just the big bushing needs to be replaced going by mine.
     
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  7. Nigel Dore Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    United Kingdom Nigel Norwich
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    Unfortunately, genuine bushes for my 8th generation are over £100 per side and because my car has factory xenon headlamps, it requires auto self-levelling equipment on the near side TCA. The off side arm is over £290 and the near side arm over £330. This is why I've been looking for high quality aftermarket arms.
    I have already made sure that all the bolts will come out. I need to check the bottom ball joints - I'm not looking forward to changing them if they need doing !
     
  8. Bounder Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Like I say, going by what I have seen the rear and outboard bushes seem to last very well, the front one is the one that handles the most force and is liable to break down more often than the other cylindrical bushes.
    The setup is largely similar between the 7th and 8th Generation front suspension not the same but very close.
     
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  9. hondream Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    I assume your ADAS isn't working at the moment.
     
  10. Nigel Dore Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    No ADAS, so no cruise control at all - real pain. Buying a complete new grille is too expensive + potential costs if radar unit needs to be realigned.
     
  11. hondream Valued Contributor ★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆

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    i assume you knew the ADAS wasn't working before you purchased it.
    Seems like the front has been smashed is some sort of accident, and hence these problems.