Aftermarket Kit Black Bullet Mini 0801 Car Dash Camera

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  1. ArcticFire Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Black Bullet Mini 0801 Ambarella Car Dash Camera

    Introducing the Black Bullet Mini 0801 Ambarella

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    • Full 1080p HD @ 30FPS and 135 Degree FOV at this resolution powered by the Ambarella A2S60 processor.
    • G Force Shock Sensors
    • Optional GPS built into the docking station
    • Built in Screen for menu system and also to help position camera
    • Powered Docking Station for quick and easy removal of camera
    • Loop Recording
    • Records audio
    • Micro-SD up to 32GB and also has an HDMI port
    • Optional built in 8GB memory for on scene data backup (should you have to hand your card over to police)
    • Internal Battery


    This really is a great little camera and is just what I was looking for as it uses a docking station which is powered so removing is just a case of pulling the camera away. The internal battery also means that if you have to leave your car because say someone hit you from behind you can pull the camera out and carry it whilst still recording for seamless evidence of the whole event.

    The small display screen is a big help for quickly adjusting settings and getting the camera angle correct. As soon as you turn the ignition on it will start up and it also plays a quick chime to let you know it's working ok and having motion detect on allows it to start recording as soon as you move away.

    The video quality is excellent and up there with the more expensive devices. There's no problems when there's lots of trees about and the total bitrates range from 9098kbps to 11804kbps from the samples I've taken so this shows there's been no reduction in the bitrate with the firmware etc. Night time quality is good, it's hard to judge from the limited samples I've taken but the only examples I've seen which are better are the few Wide Dynamic Range cameras that I've seen such as the DOD LS300W but these cameras are quite bulky and always seem to come with suction cups instead of 3M tape.

    The best part is the price! You can get it from Amazon at £80, however, it will be shipped from China with an estimated 7-21 days. Plus, I'm not sure if you could end up getting charged for Duty and also VAT. I preferred to go with a UK Supplier who cost £110 and this also comes with a 1 year warranty from a UK based firm. The price difference does make me think that the Amazon one doesn't include the Duty and VAT. The UK Supplier is Car Camera Choices and they were very helpful. Delivery took 1 working day so that's good also.

    Software is free and works perfectly.

    Installation was made easy thanks to the excellent tutorial by Doc which can be found here and it took away the fear and risk of snapping clips etc! The camera can detect motion so if you hardwire it with a battery protect then it will operate in parking mode. I decided not to hardwire as there isn't a specific hardwiring kit available for it and I didn't want to use another make. Instead, I just used a cigarette lighter extension lead and HID the cables in the same place as you'd put the hardwiring kit. If you didn't want to use the parking mode feature then you could safely hardwire it to the cigarette lighter fuse so that the unit shuts down when you turn the car off, but it's so easy to remove from the docking station that it's not really necessary.

    Below are some photos from my installation, I've missed out many as they would just be repeats of Doc's. I've also got a short video link but Vimeo won't let me do full HD unless I upgrade so it's only in 720p so if you view it in full screen the quality does drop a bit unfortunately. I'll see if I can pop a full 1080p version up somewhere.


    Cheers
    Graham


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    [video=vimeo;75110431]http://vimeo.com/75110431[/video]
     
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  2. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    I meet up with Doc today morning and saw his set up and after seeing this a bit up of a dilemma which one to chose.

    Thanks for this mate :Thumbup:
     
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  3. ArcticFire Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    No worries, hope it helps!

    I found pros and cons with all the cameras but if this camera proves to be reliable then it really does make the others look very overpriced. I fancied the idea of the ones which support a second camera, but it's usually camera 2 is usually a lower resolution and sometimes even the primary camera's resolution drops when a second camera is plugged in.

    With this one you can stick another one in and get full 1080p HD to the rear and still be quids in! In fact if you used Amazon and took a chance with Duty then you could put three 1080p cameras in for £240! But I wouldn't get it from Amazon to be honest and if you can arrange a bulk deal then I'm sure the price will be very competitive from them compared to Amazon.

    I just hope it lasts as it is made in China and not Korea etc but then it comes with a year's warranty.

    I'll build up some more footage of various situations such as rain, bright days, dull days, city at night, rural at night etc. I'll host them on one of my own servers at full HD :Smile:
     
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  4. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Great review Graham, really tempted to get something like this now.
     
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    Just to add, I'm sure Car Camera Choices will offer a deal if buying bulk from them which makes it even better value :Smile:
     
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  6. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    if the chaps CCC guys join up please can you get in touch with me or one of the mods to set up the account and arrange the discount for members.
     
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  7. ArcticFire Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Here's a night shot from tonight on a nice clear night. Bear in mind screenshots from video footage never look as good as watching the actual footage, even BlueRay film screen caps look duff sometimes! lol I don't use the software that comes with it but a free one called Registration Viewer. It seems to have more responsive GPS tracking against the map, shows your speed in digits and combines all your footages together into handy single files. The time line is also better as you get a better view of the times of the day and also jogging between times is more responsive. It also has very cool and responsive fast forward features!

    The beta version plots your speeds at various points in the time line also - handy for quick reference :Smile:

    Still working on getting full 1080p hosted up, but I'll get some 720p up on Vimeo in the meantime.


    Mini 0801 Motorway Night.
     
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  8. AccordCU2 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    That looks really good.
    Whats the total cost to have this installed in the car if you don't mind me asking?
    Of course I would have to pay someone to do it for me because I am useless with things like this.
     
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  9. ArcticFire Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    It took me less than an hour to do it behind the trim so you local trusted mechanic at £50 an hour should do it no problem, I'd print off Doc's tutorial to make it even easy and quicker for them. To hardwire, perhaps an extra 10 minutes?

    But honestly, the tutorial really is spot on for removing the trim - which I hate doing for fear of snapping things but everything comes away very easily. Probably the most difficult part was the tidying up the cables under the dash but that's only because I had to go into the footwell head first and upside down so I was looking up and it's a bit of a squeeze lol

    If you go with Blackvue they have their nationwide installation prices here

    After checking out various cameras etc, I'd really only go for full 1080p and make sure it's got a decent bitrate. When averaging 11-12kbps you can get about 7 hours of constant footage on a 32GB card before it starts to loop, but with motion detect this will increase as it will stop recording when stationary after a while. At 720p I think it's just under 12 hours.

    The MI-Witness is only 720p and :tut: expensive if you ask me.

    The RoadHawk is 1080p but it's ugleeee.
     
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  10. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    +1 to what Zoran said I'm interested in this too.
     
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  11. ArcticFire Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    At this rate it would probably be better for all those interested to buy their cameras and then do a group meet/install! lol

    I have to admit, my driving style has completely changed since I put the camera in. I'm far more aware of my speed and although I feel more confident around crazy drivers I still try to avoid a situation and don't think that because I've got the camera I can steam roll into it.
     
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  12. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Well me and Zoran are practically neighbours we could do our own mini meet Lol

    Is anyone progressing an AOC discount with CCC ?
     
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  13. ArcticFire Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    I'm not sure, I thought it would be best if CCC would come on here and run the deal themselves as it would be cleaner for them to take the orders etc than someone else trying to organise it. Even at full price it's still a bargain but I'll see what's happening if you like.
     
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  14. AccordCU2 Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    don't mind paying full price for camera.Dumb this down for me a bit, everything that is needed for installation comes with camera or any additional bits needs to be bought separately.
    Speedy if you are going for it let me know and I will buy it as well.
     
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    Yeah Zoran, we'll do this together, purchase and install :Smile:
     
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  16. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Graham just drop me the contact details for CCC i will speak to them and set up the discount for members.
     
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  17. ArcticFire Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    There's three ways to do it:

    If you are going to hide it behind your dash etc and use the cigarette lighter in your arm rest cubby hole then you'll need an extension such as this which I used otherwise it doesn't quite stretch: Link and you won't lose out on any sockets using this.

    If you are going to hardwire it to a fuse which only comes on when the ignition is on then you won't need the extension as you are only routing from the rear view mirror to under your steering wheel but you'll need this instead: Link

    If you are going to hardwire it so it runs from the car battery when the ignition is off then you'll need a battery protect unit plus the add-a-circuit linked above. They guy at CCC said it's not wise to cross makes when it comes to the battery protection unit (although if all the fuse ratings match up etc I can't see how there would be a problem?) so I've not looked into alternatives from the Blackvue box and MI-Witness ones. There may be universal ones out there.

    If you don't mind risking blowing a fuse in the car then you don't need to use the add-a-circuit, but I wouldn't recommend it.

    I'll get the details for you CJ and pm them.

    It's a shame you guys aren't closer as I'm off on Tuesday and could have popped over to help.


    Cheers
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    Here's the sort of rear view mirror I've been looking for: 2000 PEUGEOT 206 GTi REAR VIEW MIRROR INTERIOR FURNISHING CAR PARTS | eBay

    The large support could either be used to help disguise the camera or you could even cut/drill into it and embed the camera into it. My neighbour has a 308 which has some trunking that comes from the mirror and down. Here's something similar which may also be useful for embedding a camera into it.

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    I've also noticed that Range Rovers have a front camera cleverly disguised. It may be for the safety features and not an actual recording device (doesn't the new Honda Accords have it? I'm sure I've seen CJ's with a camera at the front as part of the safety system?). But anyway, I'm thinking more about the disguising of it - it's very subtle on the Range Rover and just looks like part of the front sun screening.

    You can see in the photo below the small black square bit sticking down under the main part where the mirror is. If you look closely you can see that there's a camera in the middle of this square bit and it actually looks like there's a second device built into the mirror stem.

    http://www.carwriteups.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Range_Rover_2013.jpg

    (image is too big to post so have to link)
     
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