Engine & Gearbox Clutch judder.

Discussion in '7th Generation (2003-2008) [Acura TSX]' started by GavTheMighty, Friday 16th Nov, 2012.

  1. GavTheMighty Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    As the title says I notice that I can feel a judder going through the clutch pedal when its pressed to change gears and as it comes up to the biting point it seems more noticeble in low gears was wondering if this is normal or a sign of bad things to come?

    Gav.
     
  2. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Gav, here's the possibilities I can think of :-

    1) gearbox oil seeping onto clutch (due to worn seals)
    2) glazed clutch
    3) condensation on clutch - does it happen only on cold mornings ?

    Might be a couple of other possibilities but not coming to mind at the moment.
     
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  3. GavTheMighty Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    I will admit it seems to be worse on a cold morning so it could be condensation I doubt it would be a glazed clutch because even after being with me for 5 mins it wouldn't be glazed anymore lol.
     
  4. crvxva New Member Getting Started

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    For the past year I have had a first and reverse gear clutch judder on my CR-V 2.2 diesel upon pulling away when the engine is cold, particularly on a slight incline, that goes away once the engine has warmed up. The car is low mileage. It does not seem to be getting worse, and if I give the engine a few more revs when pulling away the judder is much reduced or not there at all.
    Seems to be a normal thing with the CR-V?
     
  5. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Quite normal bud.. get the revs up on that incline and it won't happen basically you may be trying to labour the engine with low revs hence the judder.

    The cold climate also isn't great , you need to get worried if you get judders when the engine is warm.
     
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  6. crvxva New Member Getting Started

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    Thanks for your quick reply and advice Ichiban, I will increase the revs on pulling away and note the difference (hopefully)
    I have to say the judder is fairly slight, therefore not really a bother...it never judders once the clutch has been used a few times and the engine warmed through. It probably started around 13k at 16 months old, car now has 22k on the clock.
    Thanks once again for your reasurrance


     
  7. Blue Toffee Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    I have also just come across this issue, the car has been stood a week and when I reversed out of the garage last night it did judder, I tried it a few times and it was pretty constant although it was fine in 1st and once the car was warm it did seem to disappear...do you think this is the start of the dreaded DMF failure?
     
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  8. AccordCU2 Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    I doubt it's DMF.Mine is petrol but also get judder when car has not been driven for a week or so.
    Goes away when car warm up.
    I would think it's condensation.
     
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  9. Blue Toffee Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Thanks for that, I was hoping it would be something like this.
     
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  10. ArcticFire Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    My 6th Generation did this after I got a new clutch fitted - would make the whole car shudder. I reckon it was poorly fitted which was surprising considering the prestige cars he had in there. Never went back though.
     
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  11. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    Personally Judder is common on manual transmission Honda's, if you want judder free car just stop canning them, the flywheel gets wrapped causing the first gear judder.,....but where is the fun in driving a Honda sloooowwwwwly :vtec:

    As Zoran said it can be condensation or simply glazing.
     
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  12. earthsciencer1 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    I have recently purchased a 2011 Accord EX 2.0 with just 25k on the clock (from a local Honda dealership). I am really pleased with it and it runs beautifully except for the clutch. In general operation it is absolutely fine and smooth but I have a problem when going up my fairly steep driveway in reverse, which I have to do in order to be able to put the car into my garage.

    The car goes up the slope in stages rather than smoothly and constantly, with a lot of juddering. It does get there in the end but it does not feel right and the obvious conclusion seemed to be that the clutch may be worn. The dealer, when I took it in, said that the clutch is absolutely fine. but they did not try reversing up a slope.

    Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone have any idea if it is something to be concerned about? (I have seen other threads which seem to imply that clutch judder under the circumstances I have described is just characteristic of Honda clutches, although I never noticed it before on my previous Hondas.

    I have wondered about taking it to a different dealer for a second opinion.

    Many thanks
     
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  13. Dalek Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Hi Bob, one thing to try is to change the clutch fluid. I found this cured the slight judder on my tourer,
     
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  14. earthsciencer1 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Hi Dale
    Thanks for your helpful suggestion. I am away this week but will get this done ASAP following my return.
     
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  15. Dalek Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    It doesn't get much of a mention in the service book or manual as to when it should be changed but brake fluid is 3 years so it must still degrade over time.
     
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  16. andy83 Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Honda's like fluid changes and are built to last...
     
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  17. Dalek Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Just wondering if you've had any success curing the clutch judder yet
     
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  18. earthsciencer1 Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Thanks for enquiring. I have not had the opportunity to book the car in for the fluid change as yet but am hoping to do it in the next week or so. I pick up my 4 year old granddaughter on a Tuesday as my wife and I look after her on that day and when I brought her back this week she asked me why it was so "bumpy" when reversing up the drive!
     
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  19. Harvey Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I am guessing that you have a different gearbox to those of the 7th gens. I would say the procedure to change the fluid is very similar. there would be a drain and fill bolt somewhere on the gearbox
     
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