Pre-Facelift Model CR-V Nightmare

Discussion in '3rd Generation (2006-2012)' started by rotcat, Thursday 21st Feb, 2013.

  1. rotcat Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    This is my third Honda having owned a Prelude and an Accord both petrol and both a pleasure to own.

    Now the good bit,, I bought my 07 old shape CR-V Executive ctdi back in October from a trader 200 miles away from my home town 130k on the clock and mint condition. Paid £5300 for it.7 day warranty on a trade sale as the invoice stated.
    Drove it home no probs ran it over a week again good as gold, then spotted some oil on the drive,, ok i got it reasonable so no bother had the job sorted a crank case oil seal was the culprit so got the thing fully serviced at the same time all filters the lot about £600 all in.

    Ran great for 2 weeks the coming down the road at 70mph sudden blip from the throttle and loss of power so pulled in and called the AA. Guy came out and started the engine after checking the oil level all ok i might add and the noise of steel on steel was terrible to behold,,, AA man said i think its terminal ,, not what i wanted to hear but thats life.

    Anyway i had the car recovered to my local garage who i trust completely and made the decision to replace the engine
    £1150 with 67k on the clock bare engine only however when my old one was stripped down the clutch and flywheel were badly worn so another £500 for parts then after having the old injectors removed by a specialist firm and getting them tested another £160 down the tube 3 were unservicable so at this point im ready to throw in the towel but having come this far no going back so 4 new Bosch injectors for me another £750. Add to this the £1000 for fitting the engine and the nightmare is over running as good as new............... Until today !!!!

    A noise from the alternator and bingo after checking the block it still has the extra tensioner pulley with the old style longer belt so £50 for a belt £250 for a new alternator and then fitting on top and to top it off i will have to get a mobile mechanic out to do it on my drive as the knacked alternator flattened the battery completely..

    Bad thing is i really like the car but my patience has been tested to the very limit with this one what else can go wrong??

    Anyone else had a experience like this with a what you would be lead to believe is a quality car.

    Just off to hang myself before anything else breaks Bill will be the thick end of TEN GRAND all told by the time its sorted.

    This is my sick as a pig opening post.

  2. TheDarkKnight Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Hi and welcome.

    Sorry to hear about your woes. The so-called "joys" of motoring eh!

    Considering you have sunk so much into it already, you may as well get it fixed and back on the road to enjoy. Getting rid for something else would still involve parting with yet more money. Not sure many would have had the patience you have demonstrated by this post of yours - it would be a better decision to stick with it if you still feel that thats what you want to do.
  3. RichT Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi rotcat & welcome,

    You certainly have been unlucky with that sequence of failures. I can see how you have to weigh up how much you have already invested in getting it fixed against the cost of the next repair. Afraid I'm not very knowledgeable about other likely failures. Did the engineer tell you what caused the original terminal engine failure? Just wondering whether, despite its good outward appearance, it had been driven harshly by the previous owner?
  4. i-DSI Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Belgium Aalst
    Wondering the same.... Was there oil in the engine? Driven in the past without oil? Did you notice oil consumption the short period you had this car with the original engine?
  5. RobB Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I'd say say 99 percent it was the timing chain jumping or breaking. Wrong oil, no oil or old oil.
    Then that horrible sound of valves and pistons colliding.
    I'd keep the car mate, I wouldn't have thought much else is left to go wrong.
    Just ensure the right oil is being used now and change regularly ever 6k.
  6. rotcat Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    When the engine was removed it was found to have had a recon unit fitted absolutely ultra clean on the outside but im afraid a total pill on the inside
    On the positive side the engine replacement i bought was a solid never been opened unit with grime in all the right places and credit to the supplier Liam from north west honda used parts it is a good engine strong as an ox and quiet to boot.

    Its the other things that have been the bugbear,
    Thanks for the replies

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    I have been looking for a decent mobile mechanic to fit the new alternator and belt any idea what the labour should cost for this job as i will get the parts trade
  7. Paul Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I'd keep it with what you've spent. You could buy something else and have all the same problems.
  8. Dave Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Keep it cos you've put so much into it and like Paul says you could buy something else and have the same problems!
  9. Quacker Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    You never know how many miles such a car will have covered unless there is plenty of documentation and old MOT's. It might have covered three or four times round the clock. I know one chap that covered the UK in a BMW 5 series and changed his car every two years with 200,000 miles on the clock. Got good for them too. I'm willing to bet that they will have 'lost' 150,000 miles before the second owner buys it.

    This is why I tend to buy new and run many cars until they are scrapped. They are well looked after and last well with no bills such as yours in their lifetime.

    One thing in your favour though is that the car will 'only' have cost you £10k at the end of it. Compare that to the price of a new one. Still a big saving.
  10. rotcat Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆


    One thing in your favour though is that the car will 'only' have cost you £10k at the end of it. Compare that to the price of a new one. Still a big saving.[/QUOTE]

    Thing is i could have bought an 09 new shape with less mileage for 10k so im still gutted

    By the way it had full main dealer service history until 3 months before i got it
    Last edited: Thursday 21st Feb, 2013
  11. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

    England Speedy Birmingham
    Hi Rotcat, welcome to AOC.

    Very sorry to hear of all the troubles you've had.

    You've been very unlucky but I concur with others I think you've got over the worst of it, having replaced all that you have you should now have a reliable motor (touch wood).

    So hang in there mate.
  12. rotcat Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Thanks for all the input i hope to be a regular poster and contributor this forum
  13. Quacker Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Have you checked that the service history is genuine? The wear on the flywheel would suggest either that the clutch has been slipping or that the milage is very high.

    Not that there is much point in finding too much about it, but you could ask the previous owner. Is their contact details on the registration document?
  14. Beefy Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    United Kingdom Stoke
    You have had a very hard time of things that's for sure. Very sorry to hear about your problems bud. Reading your post I Caunt help but find the crank case oil seal leaking strange.
  15. i-DSI Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    Belgium Aalst
    Agree with you, Rotcat.
    Just out of curiousity: if you buy a second hand car in the UK from 'a company that is specialised in selling cars' (dealer, cartrader, etc...), is there no obligation to give warranty to private buyers? In Belgium it is simply mandatory to give 1 year warranty on a second hand car (bought from a seller who 'deals in cars' and is supposed to know well what he sells).
    Exceptions: if he sells to another 'company' or car dealer it's not mandatory to give the 1 year warranty. Other exception: if the dealership sells a wreck, and the price he asks is the correct price for 'a wreck' and that is mentioned on the invoice, than he does not need to give warranty on parts clearly mentioned on the invoice known to the buyer as 'worn' or 'broken'. Belgian law seems nice for second hand buys from dealerships.
  16. richsprint Account Closed. ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

    I-DSI in the UK 3 months warranty is the legal normal in a retail sale from a dealer. As the buyer bought this car below retail price, i.e. at trade price no warranty was included and detailed on the invoice.

    Moral of the story is that if something is cheap its usually for a reason.

    However I hope it stays reliable now for the owner.
  17. rotcat Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    I genuinely believe that the seller who bought it from auction and only had it a week was genuine and not aware of the problems ,, i did try to contact the original owner a company director but ex directory and the firm now insolvent so no joy there and i simply wanted to know if he had had any problems prior to sale.

    What is a decent price for a mobile mechanic to fit a new alternator and serpentine belt just labour as i will get the parts trade price ,any ideas what i should be paying before someone give me a ridiculous quote
  18. RobB Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    I-DSI there is no obligation to sell a car with a warranty in the uk.
    But we do have the sale of goods act. Which states that if a car develops a fault within six months of being purchased, it is presumed to have been present at sale, unless the dealer can prove otherwise.
  19. RobB Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    A dealer is not allowed to sell as seen or trade to the public.
    But he does not have to provide a warranty.
    Not having a warranty doesn't effect your statutory rights under soga though.
  20. rotcat Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    200 miles away from home was too far to push it back lol

    What should i pay for a mobile mechanic to fit the new alternator and serpentine belt labour only my own parts?