Electrical & Lights Dipped Beam Projector Lights - Very poor - Very Dim - Almost undriveable

Discussion in '7th Generation (2003-2008) [Acura TSX]' started by Skipperjohn, Wednesday 17th Apr, 2013.

  1. Skipperjohn Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Hi Peeps,

    New to the Forum and straight in with a request for help if possible...

    My 2003 Accord has Projector Lamp Dipped Headlights and slowly but surely over the five years I have owned "Harry Honda" they have been getting worse and worse from a visability point of view - despite having changed bulbs (From Halfords !!!) quite a few times as they seem not to last long either?

    We are now in a position where we use the front fog/driving lamps to try and help the situation here on country roads with no street lighting.

    When dipping from full beam for an oncoming car it is almost as though our lights have gone out completely - they are that bad.

    So folks - question is - is this a generic prob with ageing projector lamp housing/lenses etc, or do we have a specific issue with our car such as voltage drop etc???

    Any help gratefully accepted.

    Skipper John
     
  2. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    As far as I'm aware, unless a multi-metre shows the wattage to the bulb connector is off (unlikely) then you should be getting the exact same brightness as you originally had.

    Two things come to mind, firstly how cloudy are your headlight housings? Secondly, have you tried replacing the bulbs with original OEM? I haven't tried Halfords bulbs before, but there's plenty else they sell which is sub-par.

    Someone more knowledgeable will pipe in before long :Smile:

    Welcome to the AOC.
     
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  3. Topper Harley Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

    My lenses were very cloudy but i used my machine polisher with some 3M fast cut to restore them.
    There not 100% but alot better now.
     
  4. Skipperjohn Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Thanks Topper - My lenses are opaque - should they be totally clear?

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    Thank You for your prompt response.

    This has been ongoing (getting worse) over last year - have tried both 'normal' and 'super dooper' varieties from Halfords but not tried buying OEM from Honda outlet. Are any other makes recommended by anyone??

    Have thanked Topper below for also pointing out cloudy lense issue - How clear should they be ??

    Cheers for now
     
  5. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    I think we've identified the problem, they should be like glass and close to totally transparent. Osram is a good bulb manufacturer.

    To clean your headlights personally I use toothpaste and a sponge, it'll have them coming up like new but also requires a lot of elbow grease. You can use a machine polisher, or polish pad attachment drill piece to make it easier.

    Bicarbonate of soda works as well as toothpaste and of course there's also a lot of specialist products out there you can try to if you wish to invest in getting the job done properly.

    EDIT: Here's a shot of my Accord where you can clearly see the headlights:

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  6. Skipperjohn Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Many Thanks DD - I'll get cleaning the reflectors - What they SHOULD look like - just the info I needed... Cheers Buddy
     
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  7. Mr_G New Member Getting Started

    Hi, I'm new here, I've only signed up to post in this thread really. I'm Greg and I'm a Multi skilled Maintenance Engineer.

    I was in my friends Accord last night and I commented that the dipped beam was almost non existant, she said that they used to be great but they have got bad and keep popping bulbs so she has to use the front fogs to get slightly more light. Being the nosey git that I am I wanted a look in the day light. So I just went out and had a play. Seems that "Halfords" fitted her new lamps ages ago and every time they blew she went back and gets them to fit new ones. Every time she goes there they install the H1's UPSIDE DOWN which means they do not seat correctly in the housing nor can you see the fillament through the projector lens. Turned them right side up and they are :tut: lovely again!

    Reason for blowing, poor electrical connection to ground on car chassis.
    Reason for poor light on dipped beam, lamp fillament not visible through the projector lens from the outside looking in.

    I'd say to all on this thread to check lamp orientation first!

    Cheers G.
     
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  8. PeteMM Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Just wondering if anyone actually came up with a cure for the poor light from the projectors?

    My lenses are crystal clear and cleaned daily - I have tried what feels like hundreds of bulbs, ranging from ebay multi-pack crap through to Phillips and Osram top of the line bulbs which show little to no positive effect.

    Could the lens in the projector itself need cleaning?

    It's actually dangerous, unless the oncoming cars are equipped with candles, you simply cannot see enough of the road. Slightly annoying.

    I have a xenon conversion sitting here, but I want to see if I can cure this first before stripping the front of my car to convert over.
     
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  9. DrSam Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Are you headlights correctly adjusted. MOT station should be able to do it if it's not. Shouldn't cost must to have them adjusted
     
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  10. PeteMM Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Hi Sam,

    Yes headlights are adjusted properly, everything is right except for the light output, I had the same issue with my last tourer, and HID's did see an improvement, not not enough to bring them up to the standard they should be.
     
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  11. DrSam Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    The only other thing i can think of is low voltage as mentioned above, you will need to check with a multimeter or the actual Projectors are damaged or dirty. @nitroace09 did change his lens, his was cracked. Check on his thread
     
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  12. PeteMM Premium Member Club Supporter

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    Sorry, should have said, voltage is fine (14.4v from memory), earths are fine, etc - hence I assume it is the projector itself
     
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  13. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    @PeteMM Just convert to Xenon and don't look back, it will sort all the issues as it did for me.
     
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  14. PeteMM Premium Member Club Supporter

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    I feared that was gonna be the only option.

    :tut: hate working on the daily :Frown:
     
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  15. DeviateDefiant Co-Founder Staff Team

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    Ahh come now mate, 2 minute job and you'll be sorted. Do you have the vertical headlight adjusters on yours?
     
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  16. John Hamer Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Change the bulbs, I will wager the envelopes are black at the bottom.
     
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  17. Smokingman Senior Member ★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Have a look here here:-http://H1 Philips Lumileds LUXEON Headlight LED Kit - 2500 Lumens

    Marcin on 14/06/2015
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    Hi there! Just one word to describe this LED Kit - Awesome! I have this kit installed in my 06 Accord as a Low Beam light and I am more then happy with it. I'm going to install another kit to High Beam as it is great. Same pattern as a normal H1 bulb so there is no way to be annoying for other people on the road. great stuff!

    John
     
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  18. DrSam Top Contributor ★ ★ ★ ★ ☆

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    Look for high Lumens, the higher it is the brighter the bulb would be
     
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