I've just had to go to gatiwick to pick my friend up from the airport, and on the way down I was thinking to myself. I currently have about 180bhp in a car that weighs a tonne, and really.. its quite slow. I mean yeah its nippy in the city but on the motorway 180bhp is all, which then got me thinking about DC2's etc. Surely people must feel like epic retards when they have DC2's with canards winglets big spoilers etc with pretty stock engines and loud exhausts..B18cr's are pretty sick engines no doubt, but they still look like they're going to be a lot faster than they are, and on the motorway when your at 90 with the exhaust screaming and you can barely keep up with completely stock 330d's and stuff it must be embarrassing, same with any "hot hatch" or "coupe" with under 200bhp though IMO. When i had a d14 i always thought b16's and b18's must be quick and i'd love to have about 200bhp and it'd be ample but it really isn't lol. Is it just me that thinks like this or? Not shitting on anyone with a DC2 because i drive a clio so i can't say boo to a ghost, but loud exhausts and aggressive conards etc on cars with sub 200 is just so gay in my eyes, and i only noticed it today. ideally id like to be running 280/320bhp, I think that's good power for a daily, and i wouldn't say no to it being diesel powered either. What sort of power output would you consider ideal for a daily? Leave reliability and out of it and be realistic.