Body, Paint & Styling Rear footwell full of water????

Discussion in '7th Generation (2003-2008) [Acura TSX]' started by Rairb1, Thursday 3rd Jan, 2013.

  1. Rairb1 Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Any help suggestions would be much appreciated. The story so far. The rear footwell behind the driver is completely soaking. The carpet which rises up to the rear seat and the door sills is dry, carpet in the back (estate) is bone dry and the carpet in the passenger side front and back is dry. With the amount of rain we've had the front drivers footwell is now wet to. Things I've checked so far. Sunroof all drainage holes are clean and free of any debri, removed the rear door card and membrane is perfect, no rips tears or any part unstuck. All drainage holes in front and rear door are free of any crud and debri, I've even blown them through with a BA cyclinder. All door seals are in excellent order. There are no visible signs of any water damage anywhere in the car ie, headlining, doors swirling with water in them nothing. I even put some blue coloured kitchen wipe over all the door seals and trapped them in with the doors closed, after days of more rain, kitchen wipe bone dry, carpets soaking.
    Had a look at removing the rear seat to possibly get the carpet up but it's on the hydraulic lifters and to be honest the thought of removing the seats and carpet fills me with horror. Need the car daily so it's not ideal. Any thoughts?
    Car has done 130000 miles.

    Scott.
     
  2. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    What's changed on your car prior to this happening?
     
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  3. Rairb1 Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Nothing at all, no minor bumps, no major works done to car. Can't think of anything at all that could be the cause of this leak. Really puzzled.
     
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    Kind of sounds like its coming in from underneath.
     
  5. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    You may want to get the car on a ramp and check all the rubber bungs on the floor plans are intact and no cracks or rust holes.
     
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  6. Rairb1 Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    I've had the car over the pit in the station and everything's intact, all grommets and bungs seem to be in place, again no obvious signs of anything out of the ordinary. The car has been sitting for a good few days over the christmas period when we had 3 days of non stop rain, this is when it seemed to be worse and this is when I noticed it had started to soak the front drivers footwell too. Don't think it's coming from underneath.
     
  7. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    can you spray talcum powder around the entire door shuts and review the situation if the talcum power comes into the water you know the trigger and may be your door seals are damaged.

    Are the rubber grommets stay they winding in and wind out on the door?
     
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  8. SpeedyGee Administrator Staff Team

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    Get a hose pipe and let the water run over the windscreen, see if the water enters the drivers foot well.

    If it doesn't move the hose pipe over the A pillar and repeat the test ... etc etc
     
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  9. Rairb1 Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Just heading out for my night shift, will look and try all suggestions tomorrow if I have time failing that it'll be a weekend thing. Thanks for all suggestions much appreciated.
     
  10. Ichiban Founder Staff Team

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    NP anytime bud but please if you can take pictures too if possible as they say a picture is worth a thousand words:Wink:
     
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  11. Primarycare Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

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    Just a thought

    I had this in my rear drivers side footwell

    It was door membrane on Drivers door (front) Easy fix.

    Good luck..
     
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  12. Rairb1 Junior Member ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

    Just an update on the leak. Ichibanaccord you had asked if anything had changed on the car and I said no, well about 10 months ago I had to get the bonnet release cable renewed as it broke of the catch and then it was getting stretched as I was using pliers to pull the cable to release the bonnet. Something that I completely forgot about until Sunday morning while a friend and I were removing bits of dashboard and door trim. The carpet was dry up and behind the clutch and brake pedal but was wet at the corner behind the accelerator pedal, more dashboard trim was removed and then the fuse box had to be unscrewed and moved to the side. Once the soundproofing/wadding was pulled away it was more than obvious where the problem was. When the new cable had been fitted, the rubber grommet hadn't been put in and was then found running freely along the release cable under the bonnet adjacent to the inner wing. So with the plastic liner under the wheelarch removed the rubber grommet was chased along the cable to where the hole was and now sits snugly where it should have been all along. The original cable wasn't replaced by a Honda dealership, it was a backstreet garage that I've been using for years and have been pleased by the work they have done for me in the past, when I booked the car in to get the cable repaired, there was a bit of a conversation saying how much of a @£&@ these jobs are. So I'll get a bit of mileage out of this one in the slagging stakes. Once everything was put back together we used an industrial vax type Hoover and took out about 1-2 litres of filthy water. It's been raining pretty much all day here in Glasgow, really heavy at times and no leakage anywhere, job done. One very happy chappy. Thanks again to all whom offered advice and help.
    Scott.
     
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    Spot on and well done, sorted and good little explanation which could well help others in the future..

    Nice one with a happy outcome :Thumbup:Great
     
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  14. stratos Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Sorry for resurrecting this old thread but as I have a similar issue, thought it better than starting a new one.
    I too have water in the rear nearside footwell - lots of it. Have checked the sunroof and for damage underneath - all appears ok.
    The front passenger footwell is dry or so I thought, I have just lifted the carpet and the foam is saturated so maybe thinking the windscreen seal has failed.
    The water is only coming in when it rains.
    Any other ideas??
     
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  15. Harvey Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    as mentioned earlier in this thread, have you checked to see if the doors are free of debris that could block the drainage holes in the bottom of the doors both front and rear. Then it would be a case of removing the door cards and checking the vapour membrane is attached and not ripped or partially removed as this could let water in also.
     
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  16. stratos Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Yes, they're all fine. As I said, this has only happened during last night's heavy rainfall and the car was park up.
    Since the previous post, I have since noticed the sound insulation on the front baulkhead is soaking too so currently trying to dry that out before it rains again.
     
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  17. Harvey Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    you could be looking at the right area there. Start checking to see if any grommets are out of place or damaged, the next thing to look at pottentially is that there has not been a built up of leafe debris in the scruttle where the wiper motor sits. As sometimes can happen the leafe debris blocks the drain channels, and thus water builds up and floods in through the heater intake, which is also located in the same place.
     
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  18. stratos Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    I usually keep the scuttle free from leaves but checked anyway. All was clear so I removed the plastic trim and checked underneath and it was all clean and bone dry. Couldn't see any damage to the screen neither so at a loss.
    I removed nearly 4 litres of water from the car.
     
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  19. Harvey Club Veteran ★ ★ ★ ★ ★

    damn!

    only thing now then is get someone to hose the car down with a hosepipe front to back, top to bottom to work out where its coming in.
     
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  20. stratos Club Member ★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆

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    Yeah, was thinking that!
     
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